[78-L] Western swing festival on WKCR
Cary Ginell
soundthink at live.com
Thu Mar 24 18:07:40 PDT 2011
They probably stole all of it from us, although I can't be certain. Our set is complete while theirs has selected tracks scattered over 4 CDs. In some cases, Michael Kieffer, who did the mastering along with some help from John R.T. Davies, can even identify his restoration 'fingerprints' on the some of the tracks, isolating glitches that could only have come from the 78 copies we used. Not only did they steal the audio, Adam Komorowski appropriated chunks of my liner notes, my interviews, and photographs that we received exclusive permission from the Brown family to use, of which there was only one copy. The portrait of Brown on the cover of our box was blown up larger on the ImProper set, and you can see the dithering of the image because of the poor scanning job that they tried blow up. When I challenged them on this, they merely said "We do our own research" and basically thumbed their noses at us.
We lowered the price from $75 to $60 on our website, but that's still far above the 20 bucks they're charging for their cheapie set.
Ya had to get me riled up again, didn't you?
Cary Ginell
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:40:57 -0400
> From: mbiel at mbiel.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Western swing festival on WKCR
>
> On 3/24/2011 7:00 PM, Cary Ginell wrote:
> > We still have them in stock - at probably less than you paid for it originally (hint, hint)
> >
> > Cary
>
> Is the price reduction any reaction to the unfair competition from the
> piracy of the ImproperBox thatI know pissed you off?By the way, how much
> of it was derived from your set?
>
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> >> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:50:53 -0400
> >> From: jeffsultanof at gmail.com
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Western swing festival on WKCR
> >>
> >> Nothing wrong with tooting your own horn. I am well aware that Wills did not
> >> exist in a vacumn, and once had that glorious CD set of Brown's
> >> performances, which I stupidly sold some years ago. He was a giant, no doubt
> >> about that.
> >>
> >> Jeff Sultanof
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Precede this statement with a Jack Benny sigh and a "Well..." I can toot my
> >>> own horn and modestly say, read my book, "Milton Brown& the Founding of
> >>> Western Swing." It's based strictly on my own research, but I think you'll
> >>> find it makes more sense than Townsend's rant about Bob Wills pulling
> >>> western swing out of the ether and that he brought "frontier blues" to
> >>> country music. Wills played in medicine shows when he was young and learned
> >>> much of his early non-traditional material from Bessie Smith and Emmett
> >>> Miller. The rest he got from Milton Brown, like nearly everyone else.
> >>>
> >>> Cary Ginell
> >>>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:12:58 -0400
> >>>> From: jeffsultanof at gmail.com
> >>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Western swing festival on WKCR
> >>>>
> >>>> Cary,
> >>>>
> >>>> With that said, are there any books that you recommend that are more
> >>>> balanced with regard to this genre of music? I love it, but don't know as
> >>>> much as I'd like to know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Sultanof
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Uh, oh. I see that Charles R. Townsend, the chief rah-rah guy for Bob
> >>>>> Wills, will have an hour on the third day of the festival to tout his
> >>> "Bob
> >>>>> Wills started it all" spiel. I wonder if his thoughts have changed in
> >>> the 35
> >>>>> years since his Wills-aggrandizing book came out. It did as much harm
> >>> to the
> >>>>> legacy of western swing as Ken Burns did to jazz with its revisionist,
> >>>>> single-sided history. It will be interesting listening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cary Ginell
>
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