[78-L] Vitrolac: the spelling that would not die!
Philip Carli
Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu
Tue Feb 15 06:49:44 PST 2011
Ah -- I only offer the noo korrect speling "cellulloid" on the arogunt assumption and experience that more letters than Amerikun youzage would be approppriate. The Victrolac/Vitrolac/Viktrulok debate makes my head swim, rather like Colonel Dedshott's while listening to Professor Branestawm's explanations...
"Can't we all just get along...with one spelling?!" PC
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From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of RUSSELL BARNES [r.barnes4 at btopenworld.com]
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Hmmm . . . Here in the UK both my Chambers and Oxford Dictionaries spelt it CELLULOID.
rb
--- On Mon, 14/2/11, Philip Carli <Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu> wrote:
From: Philip Carli <Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Vitrolac: the spelling that would not die!
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Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 18:35
All right, I give up... Here we go...
1) "Edisun"
2) "Culombia"
3) "celulloid" (or, in the UK, "cellulloid")
These are the noo korrect spelings.
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From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of DanKj [MLK402 at verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:21 PM
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(Yes, I know we've gone over this before)
I think most modern uses of Vitrolac can be traced to "The Fabulous Phonograph", BUT Roland Gelatt shouldn't be blamed,
because "Vitrolac" shows up even in RCA literature. It's now almost always without the c , the way other products are now
always wrong ("duck tape" became "duct tape", even though it's useless on ducts! )
Some quick Google Books results:
DuPont named some of its stains, varnishes, and auto paint products "Vitrolac" since at least 1917. In a 1931 item about
Vinylite, the records are called Vitrolac. Modern Mechanix (Feb 1932) called it "Vitrolac", without mentioning RCA or
Victor. It again was used by: Electronics magazine (1932) ; Saturday Review (1949); Journal of the Audio Engineering
Society (1953) . Even the RCA Review (1949) quoted a 1932 article & repeated "Vitrolac" !
Funny that DuPont never noticed or cared about their brand name being hijacked.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 11:17 AM
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> It's definitely Victrolac, but I'm not sure where the other spelling
> originated. Probably in well-informed articles such as this:
> http://tenwatts.blogspot.com/2006/05/transcription-disc.html
>
> Hey, I didn't know RCA was making the stuff in 1929. Live and learn. And that
> we've been calling AFRN by the wrong name, AFRS, all these years.
>
> dl
>
> On 2/14/2011 11:05 AM, Philip Carli wrote:
>> This may sound naive, but what is the correct spelling -- "Vitrolac" or "Victrolac" (with the internal "c")? I've seen it
>> both ways and am personally inclined towards the latter (it makes more sense to me), but just want to get it absolutely
>> correct. PC
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>> [dlennick at sympatico.ca]
>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 9:26 AM
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>>
>> Could be the original pressing of Gurrelieder..I don't know how long it was
>> kept in print on Victrolac. I have a z-material pressing of it. I'd have to
>> check to see if it's still on Scroll or on circle label.
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