[78-L] acoustic vanity
David Lennick
dlennick at sympatico.ca
Wed Jan 26 08:52:54 PST 2011
There were some systems that used metal or zinc discs, but nothing that
resembled a conventional phonograph record. And the black lacquer
"instantaneous" disc didn't appear until 1934. From the late 20s forward, you
could go to a studio and record your voice, but this was on an uncoated
aluminum disc which was silver in color. And yes, you could have a vanity
record made and pressed, if you had a lotta dough or knew someone who didn't
mind using the company's facilities after hours, nudge nudge wink wink.
dl
On 1/26/2011 11:46 AM, CelticGuitar666 at aol.com wrote:
> I don't think there was I have a bunch of disc's form the 30's 40's
> Audiodiscs's They were machines that were for the home or they were at other
> public places. Some came with mailers to send to friends family. Since the were
> all electric I doubt they were around in the 1920's although I guess some
> enterprising young person who had access to blanks? could have done it back
> then. Who knows?
> Oh yes I just missed out on one of those machines with a case of blanks
> for Freee Nut's!
> Dwight
>
> In a message dated 1/26/2011 11:26:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com writes:
>
> Recently I happened to catch an ep of COLD CASE, a crime drama about
> some detectives who solve old murder cases. This one is called "Torn",
> #91, from April 8 of 2007. I don't care for this series, but this case
> happened in 1919-20 (which is why it even caught my attention, I was
> hoping there might be a phonograph sighting) and involved the murder of
> a suffragette. There were a few scenes with records and machines, and as
> one might expect, the historical accuracy was somewhat lax. The first
> scene in question (remember, 1919) used Al Jolson singing "You Made Me
> Love You" with a big band accompaniment as background. In another scene
> we see a close up of an Edison Disc, Sophie Tucker "Some of These Days"
> on 4M-691 (???) and quickly a character plays it on an early external
> horn machine, steel needle out of focus in the distance. I'm no expert
> on Edison labels, but surely this was a prop person's creation. Did
> Edison have a double strobe on his label ever? It looks like a double
> strobe anyway. I think it was 12".
>
> But the real question is about something that happens at the end of the
> show. A detective has found a record and comments that it had been made
> by the deceased person's mother. What we see looks like shellac with a
> printed label - "Market Street Recording Studio" in big letters. Was
> there such a studio? Would there have been a sound studio in 1920? Or a
> place to make a personal recording? There's even an address in Philly
> but most of it is not visible. Date of recording is August 18, 1920
> (date of 19th amendment ratification). Sounds and looks like vinyl to me
> when the fellow puts it on the same phonograph to play it, and I don't
> think it is turning at 78 rpm. Certainly it's a prop. As far as the
> story goes, it would have required plating and pressing to produce a
> shellac record, and the time and expense for one disc would be way out
> of line, even if someone provided this service in 1920.
>
> So here's the question - in 1920, would it have been possible to make a
> vanity record or a home recording on disc? I know it could be done on a
> cylinder, I've heard those played at an ARSC Conference. Was there a way
> to make a single home-recorded disc for family use? And if so what
> material would this be? Certainly not shellac.
>
> joe salerno
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