[78-L] acoustic vanity

[Philip Carli]

What about the Oro-Tone disc system?  That was around in the late teens, I think. PC
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I don't think there was I have a bunch of disc's form the 30's 40's
Audiodiscs's They were machines that were for the home or they were at other
public places. Some came with mailers to send to friends family. Since the were
all electric I doubt they were around in the 1920's although I guess some
enterprising young person who had access to blanks? could have done it back
then. Who knows?
 Oh yes I just missed out on one of those machines with a case of  blanks
for Freee   Nut's!
Dwight

In a message dated 1/26/2011 11:26:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com writes:

Recently  I happened to catch an ep of COLD CASE, a crime drama about
some  detectives who solve old murder cases. This one is called "Torn",
#91,  from April 8 of 2007. I don't care for this series, but this case
happened  in 1919-20 (which is why it even caught my attention, I was
hoping there  might be a phonograph sighting) and involved the murder of
a suffragette.  There were a few scenes with records and machines, and as
one might  expect, the historical accuracy was somewhat lax. The first
scene in  question (remember, 1919) used Al Jolson singing "You Made Me
Love You"  with a big band accompaniment as background.  In another scene
we see  a close up of an Edison Disc, Sophie Tucker "Some of These Days"
on 4M-691  (???) and quickly a character plays it on an early external
horn machine,  steel needle out of focus in the distance. I'm no expert
on Edison labels,  but surely this was a prop person's creation. Did
Edison have a double  strobe on his label ever? It looks like a double
strobe anyway. I think it  was 12".

But the real question is about something that happens at the  end of the
show. A detective has found a record and comments that it had  been made
by the deceased person's mother. What we see looks like shellac  with a
printed label - "Market Street Recording Studio" in big letters.  Was
there such a studio? Would there have been a sound studio in 1920? Or  a
place to make a personal recording? There's even an address in Philly
but most of it is not visible. Date of recording is August 18, 1920
(date of 19th amendment ratification). Sounds and looks like vinyl to me
when the fellow puts it on the same phonograph to play it, and I don't
think it is turning at 78 rpm. Certainly it's a prop. As far as the
story goes, it would have required plating and pressing to produce a
shellac record, and the time and expense for one disc would be way out
of line, even if someone provided this service in 1920.

So here's  the question - in 1920, would it have been possible to make a
vanity  record or a home recording on disc? I know it could be done on a
cylinder,  I've heard those played at an ARSC Conference. Was there a way
to make a  single home-recorded disc for family use? And if so what
material would  this be? Certainly not shellac.

joe  salerno
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