[78-L] Goldkette

Taylor Bowie bowiebks at isomedia.com
Tue Jan 25 08:44:56 PST 2011


Which is exactly what I was trying to say,  Al,  but was not making clear. 
I am VERY interested in who is on what record and when it was made,  but 
knowing or not knowing does not take away or add to my enjoyment of 
listening to the performance.

I've often posted here with nit-picky questions/thoughts about who plays 
what on what session...I find it endlessly fascinating.

Also the gist of the article in VJM was that the Rust listings have been 
incorrect assuming that McKinney people are on some of the records issued as 
by Goldkette.

T


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "simmonssomer" <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette


>I would respectfully disagree Taylor.
> Without our discographers such as Brian Rust we would know very little 
> about
> the jazz and dance recordings
> of the twenties and thirties.
> I can certainly sympathize with your position that the music is really 
> what
> counts, but many folks really
> do care who played what and when and even where.
>
> Al Simmons
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>
>
>> I'm with you,  Julian...it's entirely academic for me and interesting as
>> history,  but nothing to do with the enjoyment of the music itself.
>>
>> If the music is good,  I don't care who is playing it.  I got into an
>> argument with someone recently who seemed to be making the case that a
>> certain record could not be good because of who made it...not anything to
>> do
>> with the actual music but because the artist was on that person's
>> shit-list.
>>
>> What a shame...one of the most fun things for me is making discoveries of
>> good music wherever it might be found.
>>
>>
>> Taylor
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julian Vein" <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Goldkette
>>
>>
>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>>> That Goldkette article in VJM really is great...and it's going "to be
>>>> continued" as well.  It ends just before they start talking about the
>>>> Goldkette version of "Birmingham Bertha." which has been a fave of mine
>>>> for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> I've inferred that they don't think there are any black players on any
>>>> of
>>>> the Goldkette records..but maybe "BB" is the exception?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Taylor
>>> ===============
>>> I've skimmed through the article, but the truth is that if there had
>>> been any major soloists involved, then there would have been no doubt
>>> who was present. The proposition that there may have been some black
>>> players on Goldkette recordings is a pretty academic one. The important
>>> thing  is the music--is it any good? Are there people out there whose
>>> sole reason for playing certain Goldkette recordings is on the
>>> off-chance of some McKinney personnel being present?
>>>
>>>      Julian Vein
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