[78-L] Five Faves

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Wed Jan 12 11:07:20 PST 2011


The late Richard Sudhalter made a compelling case for both groups in "Lost Chords," for my money, one of the most important books on jazz of the last quarter century.

Cary Ginell

> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:04:12 +0100
> From: ekluwer at gmail.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Five Faves
> 
> You are probably right, but for record buyers then ..NORK was not such a
> shock after ODJB...
> 
> ODJB was so radically sounding differerent form anything on record in 1917..
> I always felt  that they are not properly judged in the history of jazz.
> They were a HUGE influence.... also on black bands!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I think Gillespie was a co-conspirator with Parker and easily as important.
> > It was Gillespie's group, remember.
> >
> > The ODJB was important, yes, but I think that the NORK produced more
> > serious musical innovations as an early jazz group. The ODJB just got there
> > first.
> >
> > Cary Ginell
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:40:26 +0100
> >  > From: ekluwer at gmail.com
> > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Five Faves
> > >
> > > To me the most (sudden) radical and influential new sounds were created
> > by:
> > >
> > > ODJB (oh yes, I  am ready for what you guys have to say about this..!!)
> > >
> > > Charlie Parker n 1945
> > >
> > > Bill Monroe in 1946
> > >
> > > Elvis on Sun
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I actually don't think so.. Scruggs was a genius on his instrument but
> > not
> > > > the creator Monroe was... Without a Scruggs Monroe would have invented
> > > > a slightly different sounding new music...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Monroe was the only person, that I know of, who created a musical
> > genre,
> > > >> although some speculate that without Earl Scruggs, it would not have
> > > >> happened.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cary Ginell
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:18:09 +0100
> > > >>  > From: ekluwer at gmail.com
> > > >> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Five Faves
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bill was just about the greatest thing after Mozart!! So it's pretty
> > > >> > simple....
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > And I thought i was the only one who could equally appreciate Bill
> > > >> Monroe
> > > >> > > and Mozart. Well done!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Cary Ginell
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:10:29 +0100
> > > >> > > > From: ekluwer at gmail.com
> > > >> > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > >> > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Five Faves
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >  > Mengelberg
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Jelly Roll Morton/ Red Hot Peppers 1926-28
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Bill Monroe and his 1946-48 Bluegrass Boys
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Mattia Battistini
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Mozart Concertos Yudina
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Don Cox <doncox at enterprise.net
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > On 12/01/2011, Bill McClung wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Something I find continually interesting about this group is
> > the
> > > >> > > > > > variety of opinions and passions.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > What I would like to see is everybody's list of their five
> > > >> favorite
> > > >> > > > > > musical artists/bands/orchestras/groups found on 78s.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I don't want to be impressed. My list certainly isn't
> > impressive
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > > > > it is real.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I'm thinking the list would be made of the
> > > >> > > > > > artists/bands/orchestras/groups you consider your comfort
> > music.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > If you can't do this off the top of your head/heart, please
> > > >> don't.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Mine changes every so often but here is my list of top five
> > > >> favorites
> > > >> > > > > > as of this week.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Louis Armstrong
> > > >> > > > > > Milton Brown
> > > >> > > > > > Rosetta Tharp
> > > >> > > > > > Wardell Gray
> > > >> > > > > > Count Basie
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Sergei Rachmaninoff
> > > >> > > > > McKinney's Cotton Pickers
> > > >> > > > > ArturoToscanini
> > > >> > > > > Duke Ellington
> > > >> > > > > Artur Schnabel
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Regards
> > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > Don Cox
> > > >> > > > > doncox at enterprise.net
> > > >> > > > >
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