[78-L] records by sight or feel - was: record cartoon this time

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 10 21:23:42 PST 2011


Arthur S. Pfeffer was the person who could identify all those records by way
of appearance of the grooves and nothing else.  He wrote (may still; I don't
know) write for The Absolute Sound magazine.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Not a stunt at all, there's real truth to it, and all kidding aside,
> Kristian's example made perfectly good sense, too.  I didn't happen to
> recognize it, but others might.  I have Gershwin's Rhapsody in Blue on a
> couple LPs and the patterns are similar on them.  Loud and soft passages do
> look different and that guy just saw enough of the same literature in groove
> format to tell them apart.  I can see how with a little more exposure and
> practice that this might be a very easy set of patterns to discern.  Taken
> from a list of 50 albums/pieces of music doesn't seem like such an
> impossible feat.
>
> The gal who worked as the classical dj at the NPR station where I worked
> could do it with some records as well - from more than an arm's length, well
> beyond the ability to read any print in the wax.  Her story was an
> interesting tale all by itself.  She got in a new album of the Four Seasons
> and said when she pulled it our of the sleeve that it was not labeled right
> - and it wasn't.  Right jacket, right label, wrong disc, proved by playing
> it.  Nobody else believed her, either, except the record company when she
> called them to get a replacement.  This was '89 or '90.
>
> And I have sifted through my own wave files that I mislabelled and picked
> out certain tunes by the pattern just as Kristian's example.  In fact I did
> that just yesterday.  I could discern the differences between takes by
> listening or looking - looking was easier.
>
> Rodger
>
>
>
> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>
>
>
> .
>
> --- On Mon, 1/10/11, Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:
>
> From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] records by sight or feel - was: record cartoon this
> time
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:45 PM
>
> I have on videotape his appearance around 1982 on a program named
> something like "Real People".  I considered it  a stunt because the
> records were on a list of 50 that he might have had access to.  Only the
> labels were covered, so the matrix numbers were there to identify the
> company.
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> On 1/10/2011 5:10 PM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
> > http://www.snopes.com/music/media/reader.asp
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Lintgen
> > Kristjan
> >
> >
> > Rodger Holtin wrote 2011-01-10 22:25:
> >> Reminds me of the news story in the 1990s (?) - some NPR affiliate
> classical music jock would win bets by identifying classical music records
> with the labels covered.  The light reflection patterns made by the loud and
> soft passages were different, as most of you know intimately.  I did the
> same thing in Music Appreciation class when the teacher was about to play
> the wrong side of the album.  No magic, just a little experience.
> >>
> >> Anybody remember that story - or know who the guy was??
> >>
> >> Rodger
> >>
> >> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 1/9/11, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>   wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] record cartoon this time
> >> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 9:27 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/9/2011 10:22 PM, Steven C. Barr wrote:
> >>> From: "Rodger Holtin"<rjh334578 at yahoo.com>
> >>>> This one I know the original source but perhaps by Google skills not
> good
> >>>> enough.
> >>> Esquire mag Sept 1976 You can see all their covers since 1933 but not
> the
> >>> inside on their website, unless I missed something. (Possibly a Gahan
> Wilson
> >>> cartoon, but not sure about that)
> >>>> Here's the scene:
> >>>> Set in a bar, the glass on the juke box is broken, records strewn,
> there
> >>>> are guys standing around with money in hand, another guy blindfolded
> with
> >>>> a record in his hand with a bite taken out of it. Blindfolded guy
> says,
> >>>> "hmmm, little cable cars climb halfway to the stars... this is 'I Left
> My
> >>>> Heart in San Francisco.'"
> >>>>
> >>> Reminds me of the times I spent with the late Jeff Healey! Jeff could
> >>> actually
> >>> identify his records (he had about 40,000!) by "feel" (although I doubt
> if
> >>> he
> >>> could "feel" the lyrics...?!)...!
> >>>
> >>> Steven C. Barr
> >>>
> >> He could feel take numbers on Diamond Discs he hadn't seen before. He
> could
> >> also sign autographs. I understand he also drove a car for a couple of
> blocks,
> >> and all concerned lived to tell the tale.
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
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