[78-L] 14" Pathe

[David Lennick]

Well into 1926, Pathe was recording its originals on oversized CYLINDERS and 
pantographically dubbing these. Sometimes everything fitted into one disc and 
sometimes it didn't. Ward Marston transferred some "complete" operas from Pathe 
discs and found more on the larger discs than on the smaller ones. I've had 
some Actuelles which sound like dubs from the hill-and-dale issues, and some 
where you get about 1/8 of a turn before the music starts in the outer groove. 
Not to mention all the thumps and bumps from mechanical equipment and people 
walking around in the studio.

dl

On 1/6/2011 1:20 PM, martha wrote:
>    I have it in 3 versions: this American 14",  a 14" inside-start, engraved-label pressed in Belgium, and a smaller
> inside-start engraved label - all the same recording, as far as my ears can tell.  I would guess the recording was 1912 or
> before. The beauty of the Pathe system was that they could engrave almost any size, speed or form from the same master
> cylinders.  Which raises a question:  Does anyone know if they made metal copies of the masters, and then 'dubbed' from
> those?  Edison was doing that, prior to Gold-Moulded days.  Pathe issued some old recordings in Actuelle (lateral) form, so
> the masters must have lasted for many dubs.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Longwell"<glongwell at snet.net>
> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathe
>
>
> I should have pointed out that the record may have been released in 1915 for the US market but it was likely reissued. When
> it was originally recorded I don't know.
>
> Glenn
>
> --- On Thu, 1/6/11, Glenn Longwell<glongwell at snet.net>  wrote:
>
> From: Glenn Longwell<glongwell at snet.net>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] 14" Pathe
> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 12:12 PM
>
> My understanding of Pathe is that this would be outside start and from 1915. I don't have any Pathe catalogs to confirm the
> month it was released.
>
> If you have interest in these I recommend "Pathe Records and Phonographs in America, 1914-1922" by George Copeland and
> Ronald Dethlefson. I believe Ron still sells it through his website.
>
> Glenn
>
> --- On Thu, 1/6/11, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> From: neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] 14" Pathe
> To: "78-l"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 6, 2011, 11:51 AM
>
> I have just acquired my first 14" Pathe, Daughter of the Regiment played
> by the Republican Guard Band of France on 70043. Paper label, and
> although I haven't played it yet, I am reasonably certain that it is out
> side start.
>
> About when would this record have been recorded/made?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe Salerno