[78-L] First eBay problem

Mon Dec 27 15:06:56 PST 2010

Taylor, if the people you spoke to at the post office didn't help you then you should take it one step further.  File a complaint with the postal inspectors.  Someone at your post office scanned this as delivered even though it wasn't.  It smells like theft to me.  Probably a disappointed thief, but theft nonetheless.  It should have been easy enough, if they cared, to find out who was sorting and/or delivering your route that day.  That is where the inspectors will start because that is who scanned it.

The Postal Inspection Service office that serves SEATTLE WA can be contacted at:
POSTAL INSPECTION SERVICE
PO BOX 400 
SEATTLE WA 98111-4000

Phone : 877-876-2455

Here is their central website:  https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

On Dec 27, 2010, at 5:56 PM, Taylor Bowie wrote:

> Thanks to Greg and David...I went to the PO once about this and got no help. 
> And Greg is right,  so long as there is "confirmed delivery" no one seems 
> inclined to just accept the fact that I didn't receive it.
> 
> An expensive lesson...but as with most glitches in life...it could have been 
> worse.
> 
> Taylor
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] First eBay problem
> 
> 
>> I had a similar experience involving a prominent e-Bay seller, who refused 
>> to
>> do anything about the problem. It was only a $4 item (plus shipping) so 
>> the
>> only great loss was to the seller, who won't get another bid from me. Most 
>> of
>> the eBay dealers willingly dealt with lost or damaged shipments in days 
>> past.
>> 
>> dl
>> 
>> On 12/27/2010 5:45 PM, Greg Laxton wrote:
>>> I believe PayPal only requires Signature Confirmation on packages over
>>> $200...maybe $250.
>>> 
>>> If it shows up as Delivered in the USPS system, sounds like the seller 
>>> may
>>> have done all that's required of him - mailed it with Delivery 
>>> Confirmation
>>> and it was delivered...somewhere in your zip.  Of course I understand 
>>> you'd
>>> hope he'd have done more.
>>> 
>>> Any chance you purchased insurance?  But I'd guess that's a moot point if 
>>> it
>>> shows up as being delivered.  Maybe with a statement from your postal
>>> carrier, you might be able to get some traction for a claim.
>>> 
>>> Tried bending the ear of your local carrier?  Perhaps it was left at the
>>> wrong door step?  If that fails, I'd set up an appointment with the local
>>> Postmaster.  Perhaps he or she can track down the person in the local 
>>> post
>>> office who marked it "delivered."
>>> 
>>> I've had packages not show up and when the buyer contacted the local PO,
>>> it's been found on a shelf somewhere.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Taylor Bowie"<bowiebks at isomedia.com>
>>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:12 PM
>>> Subject: [78-L] First eBay problem
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I've always posted on here about all my good eBay experiences as a 
>>>> buyer,
>>>> so thought I should alert all to a probelm I just had which resulted in 
>>>> my
>>>> being out $140.
>>>> 
>>>> A seller from whom I'd bought a number of nice records over the years
>>>> sent
>>>> me a package on Nov 4...I never received it.  Someone in the PO system
>>>> "confirmed" delivery and so neither eBay or Pay Pal will give me my 
>>>> money
>>>> back.  All I could get from the PO was that it was "delievered" to my 
>>>> zip
>>>> code...no address and no signature...not much of a confirmation,  as far
>>>> as
>>>> I can tell.
>>>> 
>>>> The fellow at Pay Pal noted that you get better protection if you also
>>>> have
>>>> signature confirmation...a more rigorous form of making sure that the
>>>> package arrived where it was supposed to and that the right person got 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> I was disappointed that this seller would not give me my money back, 
>>>> and
>>>> that he put the entire onus on me to "prove my case."  I had never run
>>>> into
>>>> this attitue in my years in the book business and always took
>>>> responsibility
>>>> as the seller...guess that doesn't always apply these days.
>>>> 
>>>> The seller,  with whom I've always had a good relationship, goes by
>>>> luckydaddy.  He offers nice records in geat condition,  but after this I
>>>> won't be comfortable doing business with him any more.  He has always 
>>>> been
>>>> a
>>>> good guy,  but if any of you do business with him I'd suggest that you 
>>>> ask
>>>> for signature conformation if you make a purchase from him,  in order to
>>>> protect yourself in case the pacakge gets into the wrong hands but
>>>> delivery
>>>> is entered as "confrimed.'
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone else has had any kind of similar experience with anyone,  and
>>>> was
>>>> ever able to get money refunded,  I'd like to hear about it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks to all from
>>>> 
>>>> Taylor
>>>> 
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