[78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)

Thu Nov 18 15:25:28 PST 2010

I am the same. I have 2 remaining machines and planning to buy a VCR/DVD 
burner combo soon. Even with no use, belts will age and fail. Some day 
you may take one out of the box expecting to find a brand new machine 
only to discover that it is DOA.

joe salerno

On 11/18/2010 3:34 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> Yes your right but then I have several VCR's to go through (they all work great
> &  some are new in the box) before I run out of them. Don't play any of my VHS
> tapes much. Just one every once in awhile....
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> From: "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com"<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 3:24:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
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> If you want to watch them in the future a transfer might be a good idea.
> The tapes may be ok now, but how long will your player last and then how
> will you replace it in a few years? The hardware is fading rapidly from
> sight.
>
> joe salerno
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> On 11/17/2010 10:13 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>> I'd have to buy a tuner card (with video inputs) for the computer although I
>> see
>> your point on transferring those 31 year old tapes to DVD's however they have
>> been stored well&   I test played one yesterday&   it played great. Before that
> I
>> hadn't played any of them in years&   they haven't had more than 2 or 3 plays
>> (for each tape) since I made them. But then who would want whats on those
> tapes
>> anyway other than myself? 3 of the titles I later found on 16 millimeter film
>> prints but the color is faded in those&   the tapes look better in the color.
>>
>> I guess I'll put them on DVD's for myself for the future......
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>> From: "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com"<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 9:11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
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>> I believe that would be a 1/2" OR video tape. I remember using one once
>> when I had a teaching job to record myself for self evaluation. Video is
>> wonderfu for that. That machine was rather old I believe, because that
>> would have been '77 or '78, when U-matic was well established. But small
>> colleges don't buy expensive new equipment when what they have still
>> work well.
>>
>> Perhaps you should start transferring all those old VHS to DVD.
>>
>> joe salerno
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>> On 11/16/2010 6:35 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>> My high school in Deer Park Texas had a Sony U--Matic recorder as well as a
>>> half
>>> inch wide (maybe one inch wide) reel to reel video recorder that used 7 inch
>>> reels for it's tapes. It was there when I graduated in 1978. The U-Matic&
>>> sometimes the reel to reel machine were used to record programs for later
>>> viewing during class time via the closed circuit TV syatem.
>>>
>>> Oh&   I'd love to get a copy on a DVD-R of that CBS "When TV Was Young"
>>> program!!
>>> Perhaps Mike B could make one for me? Or even an SP speed VHS tape copy would
>>> do.
>>>
>>> In 1979 I was in college&   the library let me order titles of educational
>> stuff
>>> on U-matic which I copied (in the library with an RCA VJP 900 dockable
>> recorder
>>> with the tuner timer unit left at home) to SP speed VHS tapes. Several Nova
>>> programs were copied as well as a Beach Boys concert&   other stuff. I still
>>> have
>>> those copied tapes after all these years......
>>>
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>>> From: Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>
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>>> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 5:58:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
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>>> From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
>>>> I don't know when broadcasters stopped airing kinescopes, but they were
>>>> still being made into the 1970s. A film collector I used to know owned
>>>> black and white kines of two early "All in the Family" episodes. Perhaps
>>>> kinescopes retained a practical value in the days before videocassettes
>>>> when reference copies were required. A 16mm print of a television show
>>>> would have been easier, and more portable, to deal with than the same
>>>> show on videotape.  Randy
>>>
>>> By the mid-70s the 3/4-inch U-matic was everywhere in every TV execs
>>> office, so the kine was obsolete for checking purposes.  There may still
>>> have been a market in the educational film library field, such as McGraw
>>> Hill Young America Films which included a lot of CBS documentaries in
>>> their catalog.
>>>
>>> The 1975 CBS program "When TV Was Young" has a great opening sequence
>>> with Charles Kurault in a videotape room with a quad machine.  He
>>> explains that he is the recorded Kurault because he is home watching
>>> this like you are.  Then they remove the color because most of the shows
>>> to be discussed were in B&W.  Then he walks over to a Kinescope Film
>>> Recorder and we see him via a kine!  It very well might have been the
>>> last time that kine recorder was used!!!  The scene continues with him
>>> walking thru a huge warehouse of kines.  The rest of the show is pretty
>>> good, too, the best analysis and summary of the years of live TV, much
>>> better than the anniversary shows the following two years.  There is a
>>> masterful analysis of the camera angles and blocking of one of the
>>> scenes of Requiem For A Heavyweight.  I used to show it in broadcast
>>> history class every year.
>>>
>>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 11/15/10, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kines existed later than we might
>>>> think. I can remember watching Ernie Kovacs
>>>> on (most likely) Channel 7 in Buffalo in the early 60s and
>>>> the quality was
>>>> horrible..it was still coming to them on kinescope. And the
>>>> CBC was late to get
>>>> videotape..Ed Sullivan taped a special piece to run on the
>>>> Wayne&   Shuster show
>>>> up here, after their early successes on his show, and sent
>>>> it to Toronto (my
>>>> mother may actually have been the mule). The Corpse had to
>>>> find somebody to
>>>> transfer it to FILLUM so they could run it live. Needless
>>>> to say, it looked awful.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I regularly write about things I know nothing about.
>>>>
>>>> dl
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