[78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)

Thu Nov 18 13:24:09 PST 2010

If you want to watch them in the future a transfer might be a good idea. 
The tapes may be ok now, but how long will your player last and then how 
will you replace it in a few years? The hardware is fading rapidly from 
sight.

joe salerno

On 11/17/2010 10:13 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> I'd have to buy a tuner card (with video inputs) for the computer although I see
> your point on transferring those 31 year old tapes to DVD's however they have
> been stored well&  I test played one yesterday&  it played great. Before that I
> hadn't played any of them in years&  they haven't had more than 2 or 3 plays
> (for each tape) since I made them. But then who would want whats on those tapes
> anyway other than myself? 3 of the titles I later found on 16 millimeter film
> prints but the color is faded in those&  the tapes look better in the color.
>
> I guess I'll put them on DVD's for myself for the future......
>
>
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> I believe that would be a 1/2" OR video tape. I remember using one once
> when I had a teaching job to record myself for self evaluation. Video is
> wonderfu for that. That machine was rather old I believe, because that
> would have been '77 or '78, when U-matic was well established. But small
> colleges don't buy expensive new equipment when what they have still
> work well.
>
> Perhaps you should start transferring all those old VHS to DVD.
>
> joe salerno
>
>
>
> On 11/16/2010 6:35 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>> My high school in Deer Park Texas had a Sony U--Matic recorder as well as a
>> half
>> inch wide (maybe one inch wide) reel to reel video recorder that used 7 inch
>> reels for it's tapes. It was there when I graduated in 1978. The U-Matic&
>> sometimes the reel to reel machine were used to record programs for later
>> viewing during class time via the closed circuit TV syatem.
>>
>> Oh&   I'd love to get a copy on a DVD-R of that CBS "When TV Was Young"
>> program!!
>> Perhaps Mike B could make one for me? Or even an SP speed VHS tape copy would
>> do.
>>
>> In 1979 I was in college&   the library let me order titles of educational
> stuff
>> on U-matic which I copied (in the library with an RCA VJP 900 dockable
> recorder
>> with the tuner timer unit left at home) to SP speed VHS tapes. Several Nova
>> programs were copied as well as a Beach Boys concert&   other stuff. I still
>> have
>> those copied tapes after all these years......
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>
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>> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 5:58:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
>>
>> From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
>>> I don't know when broadcasters stopped airing kinescopes, but they were
>>> still being made into the 1970s. A film collector I used to know owned
>>> black and white kines of two early "All in the Family" episodes. Perhaps
>>> kinescopes retained a practical value in the days before videocassettes
>>> when reference copies were required. A 16mm print of a television show
>>> would have been easier, and more portable, to deal with than the same
>>> show on videotape.  Randy
>>
>> By the mid-70s the 3/4-inch U-matic was everywhere in every TV execs
>> office, so the kine was obsolete for checking purposes.  There may still
>> have been a market in the educational film library field, such as McGraw
>> Hill Young America Films which included a lot of CBS documentaries in
>> their catalog.
>>
>> The 1975 CBS program "When TV Was Young" has a great opening sequence
>> with Charles Kurault in a videotape room with a quad machine.  He
>> explains that he is the recorded Kurault because he is home watching
>> this like you are.  Then they remove the color because most of the shows
>> to be discussed were in B&W.  Then he walks over to a Kinescope Film
>> Recorder and we see him via a kine!  It very well might have been the
>> last time that kine recorder was used!!!  The scene continues with him
>> walking thru a huge warehouse of kines.  The rest of the show is pretty
>> good, too, the best analysis and summary of the years of live TV, much
>> better than the anniversary shows the following two years.  There is a
>> masterful analysis of the camera angles and blocking of one of the
>> scenes of Requiem For A Heavyweight.  I used to show it in broadcast
>> history class every year.
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 11/15/10, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>   wrote:
>>
>>> Kines existed later than we might
>>> think. I can remember watching Ernie Kovacs
>>> on (most likely) Channel 7 in Buffalo in the early 60s and
>>> the quality was
>>> horrible..it was still coming to them on kinescope. And the
>>> CBC was late to get
>>> videotape..Ed Sullivan taped a special piece to run on the
>>> Wayne&   Shuster show
>>> up here, after their early successes on his show, and sent
>>> it to Toronto (my
>>> mother may actually have been the mule). The Corpse had to
>>> find somebody to
>>> transfer it to FILLUM so they could run it live. Needless
>>> to say, it looked awful.
>>>
>>> Hey, I regularly write about things I know nothing about.
>>>
>>> dl
>>
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