[78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)

Wed Nov 17 08:13:21 PST 2010

I'd have to buy a tuner card (with video inputs) for the computer although I see 
your point on transferring those 31 year old tapes to DVD's however they have 
been stored well & I test played one yesterday & it played great. Before that I 
hadn't played any of them in years & they haven't had more than 2 or 3 plays 
(for each tape) since I made them. But then who would want whats on those tapes 
anyway other than myself? 3 of the titles I later found on 16 millimeter film 
prints but the color is faded in those & the tapes look better in the color.

I guess I'll put them on DVD's for myself for the future......

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I believe that would be a 1/2" OR video tape. I remember using one once 
when I had a teaching job to record myself for self evaluation. Video is 
wonderfu for that. That machine was rather old I believe, because that 
would have been '77 or '78, when U-matic was well established. But small 
colleges don't buy expensive new equipment when what they have still 
work well.

Perhaps you should start transferring all those old VHS to DVD.

joe salerno

On 11/16/2010 6:35 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> My high school in Deer Park Texas had a Sony U--Matic recorder as well as a 
>half
> inch wide (maybe one inch wide) reel to reel video recorder that used 7 inch
> reels for it's tapes. It was there when I graduated in 1978. The U-Matic&
> sometimes the reel to reel machine were used to record programs for later
> viewing during class time via the closed circuit TV syatem.
>
> Oh&  I'd love to get a copy on a DVD-R of that CBS "When TV Was Young" 
>program!!
> Perhaps Mike B could make one for me? Or even an SP speed VHS tape copy would
> do.
>
> In 1979 I was in college&  the library let me order titles of educational 
stuff
> on U-matic which I copied (in the library with an RCA VJP 900 dockable 
recorder
> with the tuner timer unit left at home) to SP speed VHS tapes. Several Nova
> programs were copied as well as a Beach Boys concert&  other stuff. I still 
>have
> those copied tapes after all these years......
>
>
>
>
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> From: Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>
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> Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 5:58:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kinescopes (WAS Average Age)
>
> From: Randy Watts<rew1014 at yahoo.com>
>> I don't know when broadcasters stopped airing kinescopes, but they were
>> still being made into the 1970s. A film collector I used to know owned
>> black and white kines of two early "All in the Family" episodes. Perhaps
>> kinescopes retained a practical value in the days before videocassettes
>> when reference copies were required. A 16mm print of a television show
>> would have been easier, and more portable, to deal with than the same
>> show on videotape.  Randy
>
> By the mid-70s the 3/4-inch U-matic was everywhere in every TV execs
> office, so the kine was obsolete for checking purposes.  There may still
> have been a market in the educational film library field, such as McGraw
> Hill Young America Films which included a lot of CBS documentaries in
> their catalog.
>
> The 1975 CBS program "When TV Was Young" has a great opening sequence
> with Charles Kurault in a videotape room with a quad machine.  He
> explains that he is the recorded Kurault because he is home watching
> this like you are.  Then they remove the color because most of the shows
> to be discussed were in B&W.  Then he walks over to a Kinescope Film
> Recorder and we see him via a kine!  It very well might have been the
> last time that kine recorder was used!!!  The scene continues with him
> walking thru a huge warehouse of kines.  The rest of the show is pretty
> good, too, the best analysis and summary of the years of live TV, much
> better than the anniversary shows the following two years.  There is a
> masterful analysis of the camera angles and blocking of one of the
> scenes of Requiem For A Heavyweight.  I used to show it in broadcast
> history class every year.
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/15/10, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>  wrote:
>
>> Kines existed later than we might
>> think. I can remember watching Ernie Kovacs
>> on (most likely) Channel 7 in Buffalo in the early 60s and
>> the quality was
>> horrible..it was still coming to them on kinescope. And the
>> CBC was late to get
>> videotape..Ed Sullivan taped a special piece to run on the
>> Wayne&  Shuster show
>> up here, after their early successes on his show, and sent
>> it to Toronto (my
>> mother may actually have been the mule). The Corpse had to
>> find somebody to
>> transfer it to FILLUM so they could run it live. Needless
>> to say, it looked awful.
>>
>> Hey, I regularly write about things I know nothing about.
>>
>> dl
>