[78-L] Charles Penrose on Gennett

[Malcolm Rockwell]

I have the same label scan, Han. It would indeed appear that there are 
two 10000 series. The blue label in our scans is the early, 
pre-sextagonal, single ring circular label. The other 10000 series is 
Gennett Art-Tone and they have different material. Nailing down  the 
blue ring label10000 series has proved to be shaky because of lack of 
documentation - the Art-Tones have been a bit easier, but not much! I 
believe all of Ty's material came from (SF) Steve Abrams research. Next 
I speak with him I'll ask about this.

The 20000 series numbers from the runouts of Dave's version of Ge 4670 
are what are puzzling me. I thought they might be consecutive Pathe 
issues. They're not.

And the Art-Tone Gennetts I've seen are all 14000s, with the exception 
of 12503 A/B which is Swanee River and and Gentle Shadows (the scans are 
really lousy but I do have these titles in my database) both by Helen 
Ware. Having a 10030 issue on Art-Tone further confuses things.

Mal

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On 10/29/2010 6:16 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
> We are awaiting Mal finishing his morning coffee, and then his bright mind......
>
> I have a label image of Gnt 10015-A which is:
> Gennett Band: Shim-Me-Sha-Wabble - $1.00 (blue label).
>
> This is very different from 10015 in Ty's list, showing
>        10015 ETHEL TOMS ONLY A LITTLE WORD G01432 GE9080+ - - (-)
>        10015 ROBERT CARR&  ETHEL TOMS SO NEAR THE KINGDOM G01410! - - - -
>
>
> Images of 10019 (Elliott Shaw) agreeing with Ty have a normal green label.
> 10030 by Frederic Martin on red Gnt Art Tone again differs from Ty's list.
> So there were 2 Gnt 10000 series?
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
> Further confusion..here it is as 10009.
> http://www.78discography.com/GNT10000.htm
>
> dl
>
> On 10/29/2010 10:23 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>> Hmm..per Ty's site, 4670 should be
>>
>> 4670 	ALEX PRINCE 	BELPHIGOR MARCH 	- 	- 	- 	- 	-
>> 4670 	Signor FROSINI 	AMOUREUSE WALTZ (accordion 	- 	- 	- 	- 	Signor Frosini
>>
>> So maybe this is a Canadian (Starr Gennett) number. Kinda confusing.
>>
>> On 10/29/2010 12:51 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> Gennett 4670, as "G. Penrose" but undoubtedly Charles Penrose: "How We Laugh"
>>> b/w "The Cigar Girl". What's the source of this? Numbers (matrix?) 20492 and
>>> 20493 appear in the runout. "Cigar Girl" was done for Beka in 1912 and again in
>>> 1923 on Pathe 10523, both backed with other laughing songs.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
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