[78-L] Victor number puzzlement

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Oct 28 09:14:10 PDT 2010


So they're ethnic issues that were still in print as "special order" items. 
Interesting that the twelve-inch purple label ethnics (38-xxxx) weren't shown 
in 1951.

dl

On 10/28/2010 11:04 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
> I have images in the range 30000-30914. All scroll, with Orthophonic in a curved line
> above Nipper.
> All Latin, like Cuarteto Machin (for ex on 30000, 30619). Text on labels in Spanish.
> Some Grabado en Europa. Labels look black.
> There is also a scroll 37000 Latin series, which is much rarer. I have only
> 4 images in range 37072-37673. Of these, 37658 is pres. a later pressing,
> with double ring "Serie Internacional" label.
> 37673 is by Mercedes Simone / con Orquesta.
>
> There is also a latin post-scroll black 38000 series.
> A later pressing of RCA Vic 38629 looks dark blue and might be purple.
> Maybe repressings in the 50s are on purple labels.
>
> There is a common Argentine 37000 series, which seems to have the same issues
> (confirmed for 37072&  37246) and pres. is the orig. series.
> Not known if everything was also issued in the US.
> According to 'omar', the seller of (Ar) 37072, it was recd in 1931.
> The Arg. 38000 series seems to be the continuation of the 37000 series and
> is the source for the US 38000 series (in both, 38008 is by Francisco Lomuto).
>
> Now I see that the US 30000 series is same as the Arg. 30000 series (confirmed
> for 30409).
> The Arg. series is rather rare, and prob. the US series is the original.
> There are also Brazil 30000&  37000 series
> (only 30748 by Los Siboneyes&  37597 by Trio C. Ortiz seen).
> For 30619 by Cuarteto Machin I have a rec. date of NY 29 Oct 1931.
> Is this (or any others) in Spottswood?
>
> I have never seen a US 20-series below 20-1500 (Berigan in Album P-134 on
> double ring Victor).
> Earliest available Arg. 20- issue is 20-1502 by Berigan (Jelly-Roll Blues) in
> Arg. album A-28 (side 3).
> Actually the US issue is also 20-1502 but now it is side 5 in P-134.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>>
> The RCA Victor Request Catalog (1951) has a price list at the back and it lists
> a couple of numbering series I've never seen before..30000 and up (ten-inch
> purple label) and 37000 and up (10 inch purple label). Qu'est'ce que c'est?
> Also, it lists the post 1942 ten-inch popular black label series as "20-1400
> and up". Thought it started at 20-1500. Did they go back and use some lower
> numbers for a special series at one point?
>
> dl
> <<<


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