[78-L] Kansas City Jazz (Decca DL-8044) 78 rpm set info?

Fri Oct 8 07:21:20 PDT 2010

It's possible that the Canadian pressing could be A..this happened quite often. 
And if Compo had good parts on file they might have used A- in the album.

Haven't found Kansas City Jazz among my anthology sets yet for some reason, 
only Chicago, New Orleans, Gems 1 & 2, Colored, White, Sax, Drums..

dl

On 10/8/2010 10:09 AM, Glenn Longwell wrote:
> On my Good Morning Blues it is also -B.
>
> --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Han Enderman<jcenderman at solcon.nl>  wrote:
>
> From: Han Enderman<jcenderman at solcon.nl>
> Subject: [78-L]  Kansas City Jazz (Decca DL-8044) 78 rpm set info?
> To: "78-L"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 9:02 AM
>
> Indeed all sessions made for the 1941 album (plus some single issues in Decca 8000 series).
> A Kansas City album could not be "complete" without Basie, then - as said - with Voc/OK, and
> thus Decca took 2 of their earlier issues.
> The Decca issues retained their cat.nrs when repressed during the 40s, but label styles
> changed a little. I have 7 slightly different label types for the records, which thus are common,
> but often occur (and were sold?) outside the album. The album is part of the jazz series started
> with New Orleans&  Chicago Jazz. Latest pressings show album nr on label with prefix A.
> I will send some images to Robert Bratcher.
>
> In Ty's list, Basie's 18125 Good Morning Blues is shown as mx 62511-B, but in Rust JR-6 it is -A.
> This is one of the few Basie alt. takes on Decca.
> Sheridan's Basie dg lists 18125 (album 214) for both takes !
> But on the 6 images with visible take it is -B. Anyone has -A on Decca 18125?
> On the few available images of orig. issue De 1446 the take is not visible, but this issue was
> regularly repressed.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>>
> 18121A     PETE JOHNSON'S BAND     627 STOMP     68332=A     (A-214 - 1)     -     11/11/40     Pete
> Johnson - Dave Dexter
> 18121B     JOE TURNER&  HIS FLYCATS     PINEY BROWN BLUES     68333=A     DE29711
> (A214-2)     -     11/11/40     JOE TURNER-PETE JOHNSON
> 18122A     MARY LOU WILLIAMS and her Kansas City Seven     BABY DEAR     68365=AA
> (A-214-3)     -     11/18/40     Bennie Moten - Thamon Hayes
> 18122B     MARY LOU WILLIAMS and her Kansas City Seven     HARMONY BLUES     68366=AA
> (A-214-4)     -     11/18/40     Bennie Moten
> 18123A     ANDY KIRK&  His CLOUDS OF JOY     THE COUNT     68317=A     (A-214-5)     -
> 11/7/40     Thomas Gordon
> 18123B     ANDY KIRK&  His CLOUDS OF JOY     TWELFTH STREET RAG     68318=A
> (A-214-6)     -     11/7/40     EUDAY L. BOWMAN - JAMES SUMNER
> 18124     HOT LIPS PAGE&  HIS BAND     LAFAYETTE     68334=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40
> (KANSAS CITY JAZZ)
> 18124     HOT LIPS PAGE&  HIS BAND     SOUTH     68335=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40     (KANSAS
> CITY JAZZ)
> 18125A     COUNT BASIE&  HIS ORCH     GOOD MORNING BLUES (v. James Rushing)
> 62511=B     DE1965B     (214-9)     8/9/37     Eddie Durham
> 18125B     COUNT BASIE&  HIS ORCH     DOGGIN' AROUND     63920=A     (A-214-10)     -
> 6/6/38     HERSCHEL EVANS
> 18126     EDDIE DURHAM&  HIS BAND     MOTEN'S SWING     68337=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40
> (KANSAS CITY JAZZ)
> 18126     EDDIE DURHAM&  HIS BAND     I WANT A LITTLE GIRL     68336=A     (A-214)     -
> 11/11/40     (KANSAS CITY JAZZ)
>
>   From Ty's site: http://settlet.fateback.com/Dec18000.htm
> Home page: http://settlet.fateback.com/index.html
>
> Actually, it looks as if these sides were all recorded for this set and these
> ARE the original issues.
>
> dl
>
> On 10/8/2010 12:50 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>> Whenever you have time Dave. Ty's site? I don't know about it.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 11:22:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kansas City Jazz (Decca DL-8044) 78 rpm set info?
>>
>> Of course this still doesn't answer your other question, about the original
>> issue numbers. That's for another day. Or maybe they're cross referenced on
>> Ty's site..takes too long and the presence of 2 or 3 volumes of the Decca Books
>> to look them up that way.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 10/8/2010 12:18 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>>>
>>>        From the 1942 catalog (which saved me going down the hall and getting the
>>> album down):
>>>
>>> 18121: 627 Stomp (Pete Johnson)/Piney Brown Blues (Joe Turner)
>>> 18122: Baby Dear/Harmony Blues (Mary Lou Williams)
>>> 18123: The Count/Twelfth Street Rag (Andy Kirk)
>>> 18124: South/Lafayette (Hot Lips Page)
>>> 18125: Good Morning Blues/Doggin' Around (Count Basie)
>>> 18126: Moten's Swing/I Want a Little Girl (Eddie Durham)
>>>
>>> One of many great anthology albums Decca issued in the early 40s. Dave Dexter
>>> Jr wrote about instigating that series when he was still too young to vote.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> On 10/8/2010 12:09 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>>> I've got a mid 60's lp issue of this which was originally put out in the
>> 50's.
>>>> It's 12 tracks have Count Basie, Eddie Durham, Pete Johnson, Andy Kirk, Hot
>>>> Lips
>>>> Page, Joe Turner and Mary Lou Williams as the artists with all the recordings
>>>> made sometime in the 30's for Decca. Have never found the original 50's lp
>> nor
>>>> the 78 rpm set of this record which was also issued in the 50's. I just
>> wonder
>>>> if they are really that rare or have I just been unlucky in my hunting for
>>> them
>>>> all these years. Sometime I might dig that album up then post the track
>>>> listings
>>>> with the artists so that someone here could give me the original 30's Decca
>>>> record numbers&    tell me which track is an A side or a B side plus whats on
>>> the
>>>> other side of the original 30's issue records. Maybe one day I might be able
>>> to
>>>> track them all down. Not that I'm keen about any type of jazz (I'm really
>> not)
>>>> but some of the tracks on that lp are pretty good so finding the 50's 78 rpm
>>>> reissue discs or better yet the original 1930's issues might be fun!!
>>>>
>>>> The only one I know about is Decca 18125-B which is Doggin Around by Count
>>>> Basie
>>>> &    His Orchestra with no idea whats on the A side as I've never seen that
>>>> record.
>>>> Anybody know?
>>>>
>>>> I dug up the record&    here is the track listing.
>>>>
>>>> South
>>>>
>>>> Lafayette
>>>> Oran Hot Lips Page
>>>>
>>>> Good Morning Blues (Vocal by James Bushing)
>>>>
>>>> Doggin Around
>>>> Count Basie&    His Orchestra
>>>>
>>>> Moten's Swing
>>>>
>>>> I Want A Little Girl
>>>> Eddie Durham&    His Band
>>>>
>>>> 627 Stomp
>>>> Pete Johnsons Band
>>>>
>>>> Piney Brown Blues
>>>> Joe Turner&    His Fly Cats
>>>>
>>>> Baby Dear
>>>>
>>>> Harmony Blues
>>>> Mary Lou Williams&    Her Kansas City Seven
>>>>
>>>> The Count
>>>>
>>>> Twelfth Street Rag
>>>> Andy Kirk&    His Clouds Of Joy.
>>>>
>>>> Just found the 50's LP issue on Ebay. Yay!! Now to hunt down the 50's 78 rpm
>>>> reissue set plus the original 30's 78's.....
>>>>
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