[78-L] Kansas City Jazz (Decca DL-8044) 78 rpm set info?

[Glenn Longwell]

On my Good Morning Blues it is also -B.  

--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl> wrote:

From: Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl>
Subject: [78-L]  Kansas City Jazz (Decca DL-8044) 78 rpm set info?
To: "78-L" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 9:02 AM

Indeed all sessions made for the 1941 album (plus some single issues in Decca 8000 series).
A Kansas City album could not be "complete" without Basie, then - as said - with Voc/OK, and
thus Decca took 2 of their earlier issues.
The Decca issues retained their cat.nrs when repressed during the 40s, but label styles
changed a little. I have 7 slightly different label types for the records, which thus are common,
but often occur (and were sold?) outside the album. The album is part of the jazz series started
with New Orleans & Chicago Jazz. Latest pressings show album nr on label with prefix A.
I will send some images to Robert Bratcher.

In Ty's list, Basie's 18125 Good Morning Blues is shown as mx 62511-B, but in Rust JR-6 it is -A.
This is one of the few Basie alt. takes on Decca.
Sheridan's Basie dg lists 18125 (album 214) for both takes !
But on the 6 images with visible take it is -B. Anyone has -A on Decca 18125?
On the few available images of orig. issue De 1446 the take is not visible, but this issue was 
regularly repressed.

Han Enderman
===
>>>
18121A     PETE JOHNSON'S BAND     627 STOMP     68332=A     (A-214 - 1)     -     11/11/40     Pete 
Johnson - Dave Dexter
18121B     JOE TURNER & HIS FLYCATS     PINEY BROWN BLUES     68333=A     DE29711 
(A214-2)     -     11/11/40     JOE TURNER-PETE JOHNSON
18122A     MARY LOU WILLIAMS and her Kansas City Seven     BABY DEAR     68365=AA 
(A-214-3)     -     11/18/40     Bennie Moten - Thamon Hayes
18122B     MARY LOU WILLIAMS and her Kansas City Seven     HARMONY BLUES     68366=AA 
(A-214-4)     -     11/18/40     Bennie Moten
18123A     ANDY KIRK & His CLOUDS OF JOY     THE COUNT     68317=A     (A-214-5)     - 
11/7/40     Thomas Gordon
18123B     ANDY KIRK & His CLOUDS OF JOY     TWELFTH STREET RAG     68318=A 
(A-214-6)     -     11/7/40     EUDAY L. BOWMAN - JAMES SUMNER
18124     HOT LIPS PAGE & HIS BAND     LAFAYETTE     68334=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40 
(KANSAS CITY JAZZ)
18124     HOT LIPS PAGE & HIS BAND     SOUTH     68335=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40     (KANSAS 
CITY JAZZ)
18125A     COUNT BASIE & HIS ORCH     GOOD MORNING BLUES (v. James Rushing) 
62511=B     DE1965B     (214-9)     8/9/37     Eddie Durham
18125B     COUNT BASIE & HIS ORCH     DOGGIN' AROUND     63920=A     (A-214-10)     - 
6/6/38     HERSCHEL EVANS
18126     EDDIE DURHAM & HIS BAND     MOTEN'S SWING     68337=A     (A-214)     -     11/11/40 
(KANSAS CITY JAZZ)
18126     EDDIE DURHAM & HIS BAND     I WANT A LITTLE GIRL     68336=A     (A-214)     - 
11/11/40     (KANSAS CITY JAZZ)

 From Ty's site: http://settlet.fateback.com/Dec18000.htm
Home page: http://settlet.fateback.com/index.html

Actually, it looks as if these sides were all recorded for this set and these 
ARE the original issues.

dl

On 10/8/2010 12:50 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
> Whenever you have time Dave. Ty's site? I don't know about it.....
>
>
>
>
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> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
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>
> Of course this still doesn't answer your other question, about the original
> issue numbers. That's for another day. Or maybe they're cross referenced on
> Ty's site..takes too long and the presence of 2 or 3 volumes of the Decca Books
> to look them up that way.
>
> dl
>
> On 10/8/2010 12:18 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>>
>>      From the 1942 catalog (which saved me going down the hall and getting the
>> album down):
>>
>> 18121: 627 Stomp (Pete Johnson)/Piney Brown Blues (Joe Turner)
>> 18122: Baby Dear/Harmony Blues (Mary Lou Williams)
>> 18123: The Count/Twelfth Street Rag (Andy Kirk)
>> 18124: South/Lafayette (Hot Lips Page)
>> 18125: Good Morning Blues/Doggin' Around (Count Basie)
>> 18126: Moten's Swing/I Want a Little Girl (Eddie Durham)
>>
>> One of many great anthology albums Decca issued in the early 40s. Dave Dexter
>> Jr wrote about instigating that series when he was still too young to vote.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 10/8/2010 12:09 AM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>> I've got a mid 60's lp issue of this which was originally put out in the
> 50's.
>>> It's 12 tracks have Count Basie, Eddie Durham, Pete Johnson, Andy Kirk, Hot
>>> Lips
>>> Page, Joe Turner and Mary Lou Williams as the artists with all the recordings
>>> made sometime in the 30's for Decca. Have never found the original 50's lp
> nor
>>> the 78 rpm set of this record which was also issued in the 50's. I just
> wonder
>>> if they are really that rare or have I just been unlucky in my hunting for
>> them
>>> all these years. Sometime I might dig that album up then post the track
>>> listings
>>> with the artists so that someone here could give me the original 30's Decca
>>> record numbers&   tell me which track is an A side or a B side plus whats on
>> the
>>> other side of the original 30's issue records. Maybe one day I might be able
>> to
>>> track them all down. Not that I'm keen about any type of jazz (I'm really
> not)
>>> but some of the tracks on that lp are pretty good so finding the 50's 78 rpm
>>> reissue discs or better yet the original 1930's issues might be fun!!
>>>
>>> The only one I know about is Decca 18125-B which is Doggin Around by Count
>>> Basie
>>> &   His Orchestra with no idea whats on the A side as I've never seen that
>>> record.
>>> Anybody know?
>>>
>>> I dug up the record&   here is the track listing.
>>>
>>> South
>>>
>>> Lafayette
>>> Oran Hot Lips Page
>>>
>>> Good Morning Blues (Vocal by James Bushing)
>>>
>>> Doggin Around
>>> Count Basie&   His Orchestra
>>>
>>> Moten's Swing
>>>
>>> I Want A Little Girl
>>> Eddie Durham&   His Band
>>>
>>> 627 Stomp
>>> Pete Johnsons Band
>>>
>>> Piney Brown Blues
>>> Joe Turner&   His Fly Cats
>>>
>>> Baby Dear
>>>
>>> Harmony Blues
>>> Mary Lou Williams&   Her Kansas City Seven
>>>
>>> The Count
>>>
>>> Twelfth Street Rag
>>> Andy Kirk&   His Clouds Of Joy.
>>>
>>> Just found the 50's LP issue on Ebay. Yay!! Now to hunt down the 50's 78 rpm
>>> reissue set plus the original 30's 78's.....
>>>
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