[78-L] Columbia Patriotic Series, was Columbia blue on white labels, revisited

Steven C. Barr stevenc at interlinks.net
Sat Aug 28 17:45:46 PDT 2010


From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> I found two more Columbia P- discs this afternoon. Full colour labels.
> P19:
> THE VETERAN'S SONG..ROBERT HOWE/THE OLD BRIGADE..HARRISON LATIMER
> P20:
> SONS OF THE SEA..HAROLD WOOD/TOMMY ATKINS..ROBERT HOWE
Found WHERE?! I buy these whenever I run across them...but most of the 
several
which I own came with boxes of "miscellaneous junk" sold at CAPS meetings!
> I also found another copy of P-10 with the wrong master used for The 
> Midnight
> Attack. Again, I'm sure nobody noticed the difference since it was another 
> band
> piece (Charge of the Light Brigade, Columbia Band) but that one must have 
> been
> fairly popular.
> On 8/22/2010 8:36 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
>> I have images of both label types for Co(C) P-10, Prince's Band: The 
>> Midnight Attack/...Tipperary.
>> Both 85c. Multicolor label with double (!) Note the Notes logo at left& 
>> right of spindle hole.
>> P-11 is a single-sided multicolor issue, mentioning Price 85c, but with 
>> notice on reverse:
>> sold for 30c as sample for advertising.
>> This is Prince's Military Band: Land Of The Maple (recording date / US 
>> issue ?)
>>
One version of Columbia's "sample record" (30 cents up here!) used a 
"Patriotic Series"
side rather than the usual Burr side. Since Canada entered WWI around 3 
years before
the US did, there was no "Patriotic Series" issued in the US...it was a 
strictly-Canadian
thing! Since Canada was part of "the Empire," most of the "patriotic" issues 
were
British...and were NOT issued in the US...?!
>> I have multicolor label images of (1 or both sides of) P-10, 11, 15, 25, 
>> 33, 35. Is full range known?
>> Also multicolor 2938: "Cohen is arrested for speeding", by Joe Hayman. 
>> What is this nr?
>>
2938 was most likely the Col(UK) issue number (then sold as 
"Columbia-Rena")...?! At that
time, there was still a substantial demand in Canada for recordings from 
"over 'ome" which
was met by Columbia(C) (R series)...HMV-Victor (120*) and by Canadian issues 
of Jumbo
records.

>> The Note the Notes logo was used in US in 1917 (I guess ca. Dec 1916 - 
>> Aug 1917), and then
>> replaced by the Grafonola top logo.
>> Are release dates for this Canadian series known? Is it possible that the 
>> Note the Notes logo
>> was used in Canada before its use in the US?
At this time, most labels for Canadian Columbia records were imported from 
the US; there
are/were a very few Columbias which use visibly different "fonts" and were 
intenderd
(per their texts) for Canada only?! AFAIK, the "notes" label was replaced 
at c. A2000 with
a short-lived "barless" variant of the "bar label" (I actively collect 
these!) which seems
to have been phased out c. A2050. Note that Canada-specific labels are 
rather rare...and
often found on Canada-only records such as the R4* (and a very few other R-* 
issues).
They are easily identified...both catalog numbers and credits will be in 
very different
"fonts" from US Columbias...!

I was working (and I think still am...?!) with Jack Litchfield on a 
compilation of the
Canadian 16*-D series...used from 1924 until an unknown point in the 
thirties!
Needless to say, these discs are in the "hens' teeth" category...as is any 
documentation
thereunto!

Steven C. Barr
>> Possibly the blue-white label was a 2nd pressing, combining features of 
>> the multicolor label
>> and the US Note the Notes label design ?
>>
>> The P-11 notice says: "Other Columbia Double-Disc Records range in price 
>> up to $7.50 and
>> include a magnificent series of Grand Opera records...".
>> Anyone knows examples of such expensive records?
>>
>> Han Enderman
>> ===
>>>>> I found another Canadian Columbia from the mid 1910s with a monochrome 
>>>>> label,
>> white with blue print. I doubt that it's a custom pressing, more likely
>> from a period when materials might have been in short supply for some 
>> reason.
>> And by coincidence I came across the same disc with a normal label,
>> also a Canadian issue. It's a pretty common record,
>> Arrival Of the British Troops In France, Columbia P-23 in the Patriotic 
>> Series
>> (did this have a US issue?) from British matrices 29160 and (unreadable). 
>> The
>> full color label, which is also on a white background, has a big Union 
>> Jack at
>> the top between "Columbia" and "Record" and the blue-on-white label has a 
>> "Note
>> the Notes" logo in that spot. Slight differences in the pressings (matrix
>> numbers showing or not showing, ring inside the last groove or not etc). 
>> But it
>> does suggest that other discs were pressed with this odd style label.
>>
>> dl
>> ---
>> US issue is Columbia A-1672.
>> <<<
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