[78-L] Columbia blue on white labels, revisited

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sun Aug 22 13:03:56 PDT 2010


Thanks..I've forwarded the images to Jack. that 2938 doesn't make any sense at 
all if the English Columbia # is Ruby Helder, UNLESS the unknown side is Cohen. 
Right vintage. Also, the original title is "Cohen is Arrested for Exceeding the 
Speed Limit", and that's the title on the pressing I have (which is among the 
"not yet unpacked" stuff).

dl

On 8/22/2010 3:40 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> I have only 3 16000-D images (16027/36/62) and will mail these. 16027 = New
> Princes' Toronto Band.
>
> The English cat.nr seemed a good suggestion, but multicolor Co(C) 2938 is
> pres. not Co(E) 2938,
> which is by Ruby Helder (on the one known side). Co(E) 2974 is by Jolson,
> recd Jan 1920, and
> a 1919 release seems too late for the Co(C) 2938.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>> 2938 (Cohen) sounds like an English catalogue number. I know I have it,
>>>> but not
> to hand, and Rust lists it as Regal G-7066.
>
> I've seen a few P-series discs with regular blue labels, including Midnight
> Attack and Arrival Of The Troops. I also have a multi-colour pressing of
> Midnight Attack with the wrong piece of music..easily detected since it's
> much
> shorter than the real side. It's another Prince's Band piece, and probably
> nobody noticed the difference.
>
> Han, do you have any information on a later Columbia series issued in
> Canada,
> 16000-D? Jack Litchfield is compiling a list of these and with no catalogues
> or
> print ads, identifying them is a matter of finding them and reporting them
> whenever they turn up. Most are electrical and from English and French
> masters,
> although I've turned up one acoustical one. Pressings are from about 1930
> into
> the early 30s.
>
> dl
>
> On 8/22/2010 8:36 AM, Han Enderman wrote:
>> I have images of both label types for Co(C) P-10, Prince's Band: The
>> Midnight Attack/...Tipperary.
>> Both 85c. Multicolor label with double (!) Note the Notes logo at left&
>> right of spindle hole.
>>
>> P-11 is a single-sided multicolor issue, mentioning Price 85c, but with
>> notice on reverse:
>> sold for 30c as sample for advertising.
>> This is Prince's Military Band: Land Of The Maple (recording date / US
>> issue ?)
>>
>> I have multicolor label images of (1 or both sides of) P-10, 11, 15, 25,
>> 33, 35. Is full range known?
>> Also multicolor 2938: "Cohen is arrested for speeding", by Joe Hayman.
>> What is this nr?
>>
>> The Note the Notes logo was used in US in 1917 (I guess ca. Dec 1916 - Aug
>> 1917), and then
>> replaced by the Grafonola top logo.
>> Are release dates for this Canadian series known? Is it possible that the
>> Note the Notes logo
>> was used in Canada before its use in the US?
>> Possibly the blue-white label was a 2nd pressing, combining features of
>> the multicolor label
>> and the US Note the Notes label design ?
>>
>> The P-11 notice says: "Other Columbia Double-Disc Records range in price
>> up to $7.50 and
>> include a magnificent series of Grand Opera records...".
>> Anyone knows examples of such expensive records?
>>
>> Han Enderman
>> ===
>>>>> I found another Canadian Columbia from the mid 1910s with a monochrome
>>>>> label,
>> white with blue print. I doubt that it's a custom pressing, more likely
>> from a period when materials might have been in short supply for some
>> reason.
>> And by coincidence I came across the same disc with a normal label,
>> also a Canadian issue. It's a pretty common record,
>> Arrival Of the British Troops In France, Columbia P-23 in the Patriotic
>> Series
>> (did this have a US issue?) from British matrices 29160 and (unreadable).
>> The
>> full color label, which is also on a white background, has a big Union
>> Jack at
>> the top between "Columbia" and "Record" and the blue-on-white label has a
>> "Note
>> the Notes" logo in that spot. Slight differences in the pressings (matrix
>> numbers showing or not showing, ring inside the last groove or not etc).
>> But it
>> does suggest that other discs were pressed with this odd style label.
>>
>> dl
>> ---
>> US issue is Columbia A-1672.
>> <<<
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