[78-L] Another dance band question

[David Lennick]

I forgot to give the date for the Anson Weeks sides 151623/6: July 20/34. These 
were issued on Brunswick. 152627/49 "apparently not allocated" and then 152650 
takes us back to December 18/33 (Benny Goodman's famous session with Billie 
Holiday), so again, a block of numbers was assigned for remote recordings 
beginning at #152600, since 152599 is also Benny Goodman, Dec. 18/33 (session 
numbers resume at 152650).

dl

On 8/22/2010 12:30 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> I've got the Columbia book open and it looks as if numbers were assigned in
> sequence regardless of where they were recorded at this time, with some
> exceptions such as Atlanta block below.
>
> 151763/6: Clyde McCoy, Chicago, Sept. 2/31
> 151854/7: Anson Weeks, San Francisco, Oct. 13/31
> 151885/6: Louis Armstrong, Chicago, Nov. 4&  3/31, dubbed from OKeh masters
> 151900/152030: Various artists, Atlanta, Oct. 22-Nov. 3/31
> (this block comes between NY masters 151899 and 152031, New York, Dec/31)
>
> Skipping ahead..
> 152345/50, Art Kassel, Chicago, Jan. 10&  13/33 (NY masters surround this)
> 152366/69, Mark Fisher, Chicago, Feb. 2&  24/33
> 152382/5, Phil Harris, Hollywood, March 3/33
> 152412/9, Mississippi Sheiks, Chicago, June 20/33
> 152439/152462: Charles Agnew, Clyde McCoy, Charley Kaley, Paul Ash, Ted Lewis,
> Jack Teagarden, Ben Bernie..Chicago, July 25-29/33, Bernie sides Aug. 21
> 152475/152480: Ben Bernie, Clyde McCoy..Aug. 21-22/33 (so obviously the Ben
> Bernie sides in the previous numbering system were remakes)
> 152502/5: Ben Bernie, Sept. 19&  26/30
> 152512/152520: Ben Bernie, Bernie Cummins, Luther Higginbotham, Chicago Sept.
> 26&  Oct. 3/33
> 152529/152537: Bernie Cummins, Memphis Minnie, Oct. 27&  Nov. 27/33
> 152605/152622: Lady Vine, Henry Busse, Earl Burtnett, Arthur Tracy (for English
> Decca), Hal Kemp (transferred to Brunswick), April 16-July 10/34
> 152623/26, Anson Weeks, Los Angeles
>
> And that's as far as it goes in the Columbia books.
>
> dl
> On 8/22/2010 12:06 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
>> Julian,
>> Are the Ted Lewis sessions also from Chicago?
>> The Timeless CD still gives New York for 31 Jan/1 Feb 33, undoubtedly from ADBD-1
>> (these titles not in Rust's Jazz Records).
>>
>> Adjacent mx blocks are:
>> 152356-59 Rudy Vallee 25-1-1933
>> 152360-65 Ted Lewis 31-1&   1-2-1933
>> 152366-69 Mark Fisher 2-2-1933 = Chicago
>> 152370-73 Fred Rich 7-2-1933
>> 152374-75 Phil Regan 9-2-1933
>> 152376-77 Gertrude Niesen 9-2-1933
>> 152378-81 Rudy Vallee 24-2-1933
>> 152382-85 Phil Harris 3-3-1933 = Los Angeles ??
>>
>> Did Columbia only record these 4 Fisher titles in Chicago at the time,
>> with 4 mx.nrs in the normal series?
>> And what is Fisher on 24 Feb?
>> Or was a block of 4 mx nrs used for 4 recordings from 2 dates?
>>
>> Han Enderman
>> ===
>>>>> Rust's Columbia Master Book Vol. 3 says the Fisher sessions of
>> 2 and 24 February 1933 were recorded  in Chicago, as does the new ADBD.
>>
>>         Julian Vein
>> ---
>> The Fisher Columbia mxs were recorded just after 31 Jan&   1 Feb 1933 Ted Lewis New York sessions.
>> Bernie Chicago 1 Feb 33 recs are Brunswick C-500 series mxs.
>> Other Columbias in Chicago are later: Agnew is Chicago July 1933; Burtnett is Chicago 1934.
>>
>> Han Enderman
>> ===---
>> Columbia recorded several excellent bands in Chicago during 1933-24,  during
>> the World's Fair,  including Charles Agnew,  Earl Burtnett,  Ben Bernie,
>> etc.,  all of whom were playing long gigs there during the fair.
>>
>> For all of the above,  Rust states that they were recorded in Chicago.
>>
>> The exception are the four sides by Mark Fisher and his Edgewater Beach
>> Hotel Orch,  which Rust says were recorded in New York.  Is that right?  I
>> know Fisher was at the Edgewater Beach hotel around mid-1933.  Why would
>> they haul the band to NY to make four sides when they were recording Agnew,
>> McCoy and others in Chicago around the same time?
>>
>> Is there a way to tell from the master numbers where the sides were actually
>> recorded?
>>
>> BTW,  the Fisher of Black Eyed Susan Brown b/w Lovey is one of my all-time
>> fave records...hot stuff!
>>
>> Thanks again from Taylor
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