[78-L] Another dance band question

[David Lennick]

I've got the Columbia book open and it looks as if numbers were assigned in 
sequence regardless of where they were recorded at this time, with some 
exceptions such as Atlanta block below.

151763/6: Clyde McCoy, Chicago, Sept. 2/31
151854/7: Anson Weeks, San Francisco, Oct. 13/31
151885/6: Louis Armstrong, Chicago, Nov. 4 & 3/31, dubbed from OKeh masters
151900/152030: Various artists, Atlanta, Oct. 22-Nov. 3/31
(this block comes between NY masters 151899 and 152031, New York, Dec/31)

Skipping ahead..
152345/50, Art Kassel, Chicago, Jan. 10 & 13/33 (NY masters surround this)
152366/69, Mark Fisher, Chicago, Feb. 2 & 24/33
152382/5, Phil Harris, Hollywood, March 3/33
152412/9, Mississippi Sheiks, Chicago, June 20/33
152439/152462: Charles Agnew, Clyde McCoy, Charley Kaley, Paul Ash, Ted Lewis, 
Jack Teagarden, Ben Bernie..Chicago, July 25-29/33, Bernie sides Aug. 21
152475/152480: Ben Bernie, Clyde McCoy..Aug. 21-22/33 (so obviously the Ben 
Bernie sides in the previous numbering system were remakes)
152502/5: Ben Bernie, Sept. 19 & 26/30
152512/152520: Ben Bernie, Bernie Cummins, Luther Higginbotham, Chicago Sept. 
26 & Oct. 3/33
152529/152537: Bernie Cummins, Memphis Minnie, Oct. 27 & Nov. 27/33
152605/152622: Lady Vine, Henry Busse, Earl Burtnett, Arthur Tracy (for English 
Decca), Hal Kemp (transferred to Brunswick), April 16-July 10/34
152623/26, Anson Weeks, Los Angeles

And that's as far as it goes in the Columbia books.

dl
On 8/22/2010 12:06 PM, Han Enderman wrote:
> Julian,
> Are the Ted Lewis sessions also from Chicago?
> The Timeless CD still gives New York for 31 Jan/1 Feb 33, undoubtedly from ADBD-1
> (these titles not in Rust's Jazz Records).
>
> Adjacent mx blocks are:
> 152356-59 Rudy Vallee 25-1-1933
> 152360-65 Ted Lewis 31-1&  1-2-1933
> 152366-69 Mark Fisher 2-2-1933 = Chicago
> 152370-73 Fred Rich 7-2-1933
> 152374-75 Phil Regan 9-2-1933
> 152376-77 Gertrude Niesen 9-2-1933
> 152378-81 Rudy Vallee 24-2-1933
> 152382-85 Phil Harris 3-3-1933 = Los Angeles ??
>
> Did Columbia only record these 4 Fisher titles in Chicago at the time,
> with 4 mx.nrs in the normal series?
> And what is Fisher on 24 Feb?
> Or was a block of 4 mx nrs used for 4 recordings from 2 dates?
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>> Rust's Columbia Master Book Vol. 3 says the Fisher sessions of
> 2 and 24 February 1933 were recorded  in Chicago, as does the new ADBD.
>
>        Julian Vein
> ---
> The Fisher Columbia mxs were recorded just after 31 Jan&  1 Feb 1933 Ted Lewis New York sessions.
> Bernie Chicago 1 Feb 33 recs are Brunswick C-500 series mxs.
> Other Columbias in Chicago are later: Agnew is Chicago July 1933; Burtnett is Chicago 1934.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===---
> Columbia recorded several excellent bands in Chicago during 1933-24,  during
> the World's Fair,  including Charles Agnew,  Earl Burtnett,  Ben Bernie,
> etc.,  all of whom were playing long gigs there during the fair.
>
> For all of the above,  Rust states that they were recorded in Chicago.
>
> The exception are the four sides by Mark Fisher and his Edgewater Beach
> Hotel Orch,  which Rust says were recorded in New York.  Is that right?  I
> know Fisher was at the Edgewater Beach hotel around mid-1933.  Why would
> they haul the band to NY to make four sides when they were recording Agnew,
> McCoy and others in Chicago around the same time?
>
> Is there a way to tell from the master numbers where the sides were actually
> recorded?
>
> BTW,  the Fisher of Black Eyed Susan Brown b/w Lovey is one of my all-time
> fave records...hot stuff!
>
> Thanks again from Taylor
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