[78-L] Canadian Starr Gennett

Steven C. Barr stevenc at interlinks.net
Sun Aug 15 19:50:31 PDT 2010


From: "Han Enderman" <jcenderman at solcon.nl>
> Some remarks about the Canadian Starr Gnt series.
> I have a single image in the Starr Gnt 3000 series:
> 3001-B Along The River Of Time by Vocal Quartet.
> Is this series same as the US Gnt 3000 series and what is its range?
> (In Ty's ODP Gnt 3001 is unknown!).
> In the 4000-4299 range I have the following Starr Gnt images; all same as 
> OK,
> and existing with different label types:
> OK 4226 = Starr Gnt 4226 - Conway's Band (1920)
> OK 4255 = Starr Gnt 4255 - J. Samuels (Feb 1921)
> OK 4281 = Starr Gnt 4281 - Green Bros
> OK 4291 = Starr Gnt 4291 - Lewis James
> OK 4292 = Starr Gnt 4292 - V. De Leath
> OK 4302 = Starr Gnt 4302 - J. Samuels
> OK 4403 = Starr Gnt 4403 - Ferera
> OK 4498 = Starr Gnt 4498 - Ray Miller (Nov 1921)
> Did the relation between Starr and OK stop here, or was it continued in 
> another Starr series?
>
It isn't that simple!! Compo issued a number of Okeh recordings under their 
original OK
numbers;  just before they quit releasing OK recordings, they started a new 
series
(at 400[1?]) which recoupled selected OK sides. IIRC these ran into the 46xx 
numbers?

Steven C. Barr
> In the 4500 series
> Starr Gnt 4534 = Gnt 4534 - Golden & Hughes (1919), and
> Starr Gnt 4552 = Gnt 4552 - Johnson's Big 5 (Jul 1919).
> but:
> Starr Gnt 4557 by Pamby Dick is NOT Gnt 4557 (Ollie Oakley).
>
> Starr Gnt 4604 (Fred White, bell/xyl solo) = Gnt 4604 (acc to ODP, but is 
> this correct or based on the Starr issue?).
> Starr Gnt 4648 (Fred Russell, bell/vibes solo) is NOT Gnt 4648 (Raderman, 
> Nov 1920).
> Starr Gnt 4655 is William Bryant (cornet solo): The Rosary / Mary (from 
> ...?)
> Starr Gnt 4691 is Billy Williams: Here We Are Again (from...?).
>
> The 4500 series seems to be earlier than the previous 4400 series (i.e. 
> not a continuation).
> Which Starr 4500s are repressings of the Gnt 4500s?
>
> I also have 3 Starr Gnt images in a 8000 series (8235 Missouri Jazz Band, 
> 8295 [unreadable],
> & 8323 California Ramblers: O Katharina (pres. from Paramount).
>
> Then there is a large 9000 series. A few known issues up to 9090 (Honolulu 
> Trio) are same as Gnt,
> but Starr Gnt 9121 is by Arthur Fields (and Gnt 9121 is by Crescent Trio, 
> acc to ODP).
> Is Gnt 9121 the last issue in the US series, and had the Canadian series 
> become different just before?
> Last Starr Gnt available is 9596 by Bailey's Seven Quakers.
> Starr Gnt 9579 (Vagabonds 1 Jul 1924) = Gnt 5501, thus no numerical 
> relation.
>
> There are also a Starr Gnt 10000 (incl. Fletcher Henderson), 11000 
> (French) & 15000 (incl. Irish) series,
> known from a few images. Apparently rare series.
>
> More info about all series and about the relation with US series 
> appreciated.
>
> Han Enderman
> ===
>>>> [78-L] Gnt(C) 4648...?
> Just found a copy of the above in a collection of "junque" Lennick dropped
> off last week...! Problem is that according to the "Abrams Files," the 
> disc
> I have is neither US Gnt 4648 nor Okeh 4648 (either could have been used
> by Compo...?!). My record is by "Fred Russell"..."bell solo" on A and
> xylophone solo on B. No visible matrix numbers...!
>
> It isn't the sort of thing that most of us are interested in; however,
> anybody have either a matching 4648, or any idea from whence
> the "mystery sides" may have emanated...?!
>
> Steven C. Barr
> ---
>> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> > Thought-provoking junque, to be sure.
>> >
>> Only "thought-provoking" for those of us who are trying to identify
>> and list (and thus accumulate) every extant 78rpm phonorecord
>> (a goal I don't really share with most of the rest of the world...?!)!
>>
>> Steven C. Barr
>
> It's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it.
> dl
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