[78-L] Canadian Starr Gennett

Eric Goldberg ericgoldie2 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 13 13:35:24 PDT 2010


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/gramophone/index-e.html

-The above address will bring you to the Virtual Gramophone from Canada which has hundreds, if not thousands, of label scans and mp3s of Canadian content (interpreted very broadly) 78s.  Canadian Starr recordings are all over the place.

Eric Goldberg



Some remarks about the Canadian Starr Gnt series.

I have a single image in the Starr Gnt 3000 series:
3001-B Along The River Of Time by Vocal Quartet.
Is this series same as the US Gnt 3000 series and what is its range?
(In Ty's ODP Gnt 3001 is unknown!).

In the 4000-4299 range I have the following Starr Gnt images; all same as OK,
and existing with different label types:
OK 4226 = Starr Gnt 4226 - Conway's Band (1920)
OK 4255 = Starr Gnt 4255 - J. Samuels (Feb 1921)
OK 4281 = Starr Gnt 4281 - Green Bros
OK 4291 = Starr Gnt 4291 - Lewis James
OK 4292 = Starr Gnt 4292 - V. De Leath
OK 4302 = Starr Gnt 4302 - J. Samuels
OK 4403 = Starr Gnt 4403 - Ferera
OK 4498 = Starr Gnt 4498 - Ray Miller (Nov 1921)
Did the relation between Starr and OK stop here, or was it continued in another Starr series?
 
In the 4500 series 
Starr Gnt 4534 = Gnt 4534 - Golden & Hughes (1919), and
Starr Gnt 4552 = Gnt 4552 - Johnson's Big 5 (Jul 1919).
but:
Starr Gnt 4557 by Pamby Dick is NOT Gnt 4557 (Ollie Oakley).

Starr Gnt 4604 (Fred White, bell/xyl solo) = Gnt 4604 (acc to ODP, but is this correct or based on the Starr issue?).
Starr Gnt 4648 (Fred Russell, bell/vibes solo) is NOT Gnt 4648 (Raderman, Nov 1920).
Starr Gnt 4655 is William Bryant (cornet solo): The Rosary / Mary (from ...?)
Starr Gnt 4691 is Billy Williams: Here We Are Again (from...?).

The 4500 series seems to be earlier than the previous 4400 series (i.e. not a continuation).
Which Starr 4500s are repressings of the Gnt 4500s?

I also have 3 Starr Gnt images in a 8000 series (8235 Missouri Jazz Band, 8295 [unreadable], 
& 8323 California Ramblers: O Katharina (pres. from Paramount).

Then there is a large 9000 series. A few known issues up to 9090 (Honolulu Trio) are same as Gnt,
but Starr Gnt 9121 is by Arthur Fields (and Gnt 9121 is by Crescent Trio, acc to ODP).
Is Gnt 9121 the last issue in the US series, and had the Canadian series become different just before?
Last Starr Gnt available is 9596 by Bailey's Seven Quakers.
Starr Gnt 9579 (Vagabonds 1 Jul 1924) = Gnt 5501, thus no numerical relation.

There are also a Starr Gnt 10000 (incl. Fletcher Henderson), 11000 (French) & 15000 (incl. Irish) series,
known from a few images. Apparently rare series.

More info about all series and about the relation with US series appreciated.

Han Enderman
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>>> [78-L] Gnt(C) 4648...?
Just found a copy of the above in a collection of "junque" Lennick dropped
off last week...! Problem is that according to the "Abrams Files," the disc 
I have is neither US Gnt 4648 nor Okeh 4648 (either could have been used
by Compo...?!). My record is by "Fred Russell"..."bell solo" on A and
xylophone solo on B. No visible matrix numbers...!

It isn't the sort of thing that most of us are interested in; however,
anybody have either a matching 4648, or any idea from whence
the "mystery sides" may have emanated...?!

Steven C. Barr
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> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > Thought-provoking junque, to be sure.
> > 
> Only "thought-provoking" for those of us who are trying to identify
> and list (and thus accumulate) every extant 78rpm phonorecord
> (a goal I don't really share with most of the rest of the world...?!)!
> 
> Steven C. Barr 

It's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it.
dl
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