[78-L] Columbia sublabels [was MGM-Supertone connection?]

[David Lennick]

To repeat (for the third time, actually)..I have 1047-P on both Publix and Metro Goldwyn Mayer and both are "Tiptoe Thru the Tulips" b/w "Painting the Clouds with Sunshine", as The Capitolians on Metro and don't know on Publix since the disc is buried away. On Harmony it's by the Golden Gate Orchestra. All the same masters. All horrible sounding acousticals (oddly enough, I do have an electrical recording by the same forces of the same songs, on probably a Plaza label). Not listed in Rust under California Ramblers, for some reason, so I can never remember the name except when I run across the disc. And it doesn't like being run across.

 

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> From: stevenc at interlinks.net
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:29:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Columbia sublabels [was MGM-Supertone connection?]
> 
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> > Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr. wrote:
> >> Sorry for being think in the head. You mean, the online database here
> >> http://www.78discography.com/SPTCol.htm
> >> has incorrect label numbers?
> > Finally, at long last, you tell us where you got the listing from. If
> > you had told us in the first posting that you were comparing a photo of
> > a Metro Goldwyn Mayer 1076-P on Ebay with this page, we could have told
> > you and Ty that this page is all screwed up. This is NOT a listing of
> > Supertone -S (Spt). This IS a listing of Columbia -P SR Special Record
> > (Client Labels). The actual labels are all mixed together here. The
> > Metro Goldwyn Mayer 1076-P you were looking at is the SAME 1076-P on
> > this list. It is NOT Supertone. Ty is the one who misread the Rust
> > list of abbreviations. So you are excused from being confused. We
> > didn't realize you weren't using a real discography.
> > Guys, we need to help Ty. First of all, Ty, change the title of this
> > page. Second, we need to check our records and tell Ty which label goes
> > with which number.
> > To start, 1076-P is Metro Goldwyn Mayer, as is 1084-P. 1047-P is Publix.
> > So everybody check their records and help Ty out. This is yet another
> > example of how a Rust short-cut can screw things up.
> >
> First...the problem is in the Abrams Files...which Ty simply put into HTML
> form for his on-line database...and thus NOT in Ty's work! Second...have
> we actually established that all the "private" labels pressed by Columbia
> for various clients were numbered separately, rather than Columbia
> having used a xxxx-P series covering all such labels? Does anyone
> own examples of two such labels using the same -P number for
> for different records? There records are rare enough that most of us
> only own a handful of them; this might require ALL of us listing the
> applicable records we own...?!
> 
> Steven C. Barr 
> 
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