[78-L] Columbia sublabels [was MGM-Supertone connection?]

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Wed Jul 7 05:55:11 PDT 2010


1047-P is Publix AND Metro Goldwyn Mayer..I have it on both labels as well as Harmony.

 

dl


 
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 01:50:50 -0400
> From: mbiel at mbiel.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Columbia sublabels [was MGM-Supertone connection?]
> 
> Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr. wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for being think in the head. You mean, the online database here
> > http://www.78discography.com/SPTCol.htm
> > has incorrect label numbers?
> 
> Finally, at long last, you tell us where you got the listing from. If 
> you had told us in the first posting that you were comparing a photo of 
> a Metro Goldwyn Mayer 1076-P on Ebay with this page, we could have told 
> you and Ty that this page is all screwed up. This is NOT a listing of 
> Supertone -S (Spt). This IS a listing of Columbia -P SR Special Record 
> (Client Labels). The actual labels are all mixed together here. The 
> Metro Goldwyn Mayer 1076-P you were looking at is the SAME 1076-P on 
> this list. It is NOT Supertone. Ty is the one who misread the Rust 
> list of abbreviations. So you are excused from being confused. We 
> didn't realize you weren't using a real discography. 
> 
> Guys, we need to help Ty. First of all, Ty, change the title of this 
> page. Second, we need to check our records and tell Ty which label goes 
> with which number.
> 
> To start, 1076-P is Metro Goldwyn Mayer, as is 1084-P. 1047-P is Publix. 
> 
> So everybody check their records and help Ty out. This is yet another 
> example of how a Rust short-cut can screw things up.
> 
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> 
> 
> Michael Biel wrote:
> >> Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr. wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Han Enderman wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> I assume that the original reference to Supertone is a reading error.
> >>>> ....
> >>>>
> >>>> There was a short Supertone 1000-S series made by Columbia for Strauss & Schram.
> >>>> This is different from the Co Special/Publix/M-G-M series.
> >>>>
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> That is the one where 1076P correlates with the Joyce song. No flip is 
> >>> listed, though.
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> Since the Columbia-manufactured Supertone had an -S suffix, it cannot be 
> >> 1076-P. As Han said, Rust used SR to mean (Columbia) Special Record. 
> >> Notice the capitol R. That means it is a new word. Supertone is Spt. 
> >> Read the Index of Abbreviations. Han is correct. It was a reading 
> >> error. Those two abbreviations are consecutive in that list.
> >>
> >> No flip is listed because the client labels often had different 
> >> performers on the flip sides. You have to go to their listings.
> >>
> >> 
> > 
> 
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