[78-L] Victor Continental Gems

[Alan Bunting]

Henri Rene's real name was Harold Manfred Kirchstein so we know where he got christian name from!

Alan Bunting


--- On Wed, 30/6/10, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Standard had a few Victor artists recording for them,
> including Henri Rene (as Harold Grant) and the Bagelman
> Sisters (as the Barry Sisters). Everything about the early
> issues seems to resemble Victor mastering and product. 
 
> And I have V-1 with a yellow Hartz Mountain label.
> 
> 
> dl
> 
  
> > From: mbiel at mbiel.com

> > I have several copies of V-1, on both Scroll and later ring labels. It
> > was a very long-lived record and is fairly common. I don't think that
> > the series was changed into Standard Records like Steve Barr indicated,
> > but was parallel to Standard, which I think was really run by a
> > different company and was just pressed by RCA.
> > However, the Blue Cards for Standard are at the Victor files. But as I
> > said originally, the printing note on this booklet is confusing.
> > 
> > Can we agree that these albums shown did come out before April 1940??
> > 
> > Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> > 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [78-L] Victor Continental Gems
> > From: "Han Enderman" <jcenderman at solcon.nl>

> > I have label images of the first Vic V-series in the range 
> > V-1 (Canaries, on scroll) - V-188 (Oscar de la Rosa Orch; on double > > > ring Vic).
> > Later ring labels state "International Series".
> > Actually this starts with the ring the ring label type which has a
> > patent nr removed at 7h.
> > 
> > This suggests that Mike's Gems cat (V-164 last reported) was issued ca.
> > 1-2 years before the end of the series.
> > Is the exact series range and the starting date known?
> > The Continental Gems were included in the Victor International Records
> > ("V" Series) catalogue.
> > A slightly later issue is V-600 (in album S-22) by Lawrence Duchow and
> > his Red Raven Orchestra,
> > 'Emilia Polka'.
> > 
> > Han Enderman
> > ===
> > >>>
> > At the Bash I picked up an undated 20 page Victor
> catalog titled Victor
> > Continental Gems which included listings of the V
> series singles and
> > showing the S series albums. I need to find the date
> of this catalog,
> > dates of issues of the albums pictured, and
> confirmation that the
> > pictures shown are that of the album covers.
> > 
> > The singles are in several lists, and all of the lists
> are in reverse
> > numerical order with the highest number first.
> > 
> > Continental Gems 10-inch List Price 75 cents
> > V-164 down to V-1
> > 12-inch List Price $1.00
> > V-515 down to V-500
> > International Novelties 10-inch List Price 75 cents
> > V-726 down to V-703
> > A. Outstanding Vocal Selections
> > V-514, and V-150 down to V-124
> > B. Outstanding Dance Selections
> > V-725 to V-710, V-512 to V-500, and V-154 to V-48
> > 
> > Albums S-10, S-11, S-12, S13, S-14, S-17, S-18, and
> S-19
> > (there is a cover-like illustration to each of the
> above)
> > 
> > Hebrew Religious and Tradition Music
> > S-100, S-101, S-102, and S-103
> > 
> > The rear cover shows the dog and phonograph logo with
> Victor over the
> > horn, "For best results use Victor Needles", and at
> the bottom "St'd
> > Ph. Co. -- Form 90" This might indicate the Standard
> Phonograph label
> > which was used for ethnic recordings, but everything
> in this booklet
> > indicates Victor. At the lower right of the front
> cover there is a logo
> > consisting of an array of flags, two circles showing
> the globe of the
> > West and East hemispheres, a banner saying "Victor
> International
> > Records", and the dog and phono in an oval. Higher up,
> the dog and
> > phono in a circle is below the title, and the rest of
> the cover is a
> > line drawing of a VERY attractive lady in a VERY
> tightfitting drum
> > majorette uniform with high heeled boots. (This might
> spark to memory
> > that you also might have a copy of this catalog!) 
> > 
> > When was this printed, or when was V-164, V-515, V726,
> S-19, and S-103
> > issued (these are the highest numbers in the
> respective series. When
> > were all of the albums issued, and anybody have the
> albums to compare
> > with the photos in this booklet?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com 
> > ---If this helps, here are chart dates (yeah, I know,
> from Joel Whozis)
> > for Will Glahe's Greatest Hits:
> > 
> > V-710 BEER BARREL POLKA May 6/39
> > V-722 W.P.A. POLKA May 20/39
> > V-743 WOODPECKER Jan. 6/40
> > 
> > This would seem to put your catalog in 1939.
> > dl
> > ---> Hello Mike, This is the only album image I
> have in the
> > > range mentioned. Best, Han
> > > Vic Album S-18 (= V-21127-32) - Mexican issue set
> with
> > > Spanish cover title and English language discs
> > > Vic V-21128-B (S-18-4)
> > 
> > Han Enderman has come through again, with an image of
> Victor album S-18
> > that matches exactly with what is shown in the
> catalog. The album
> > covers on all of this series are in Spanish for some
> reason but the
> > catalog is specifically American, plus the discs are
> U.S. pressings. 
> > The cover of this album of music of Russia has a very
> colorful design
> > that would make Steinweiss envious -- and apparently
> this album came out
> > before Steinweiss was even hired by Columbia. Is there
> a release date
> > available for V-21127 thru 32?
> > 
> > Mike Biel---
> > This sounds a lot like a Victor "ethnic" catalog I
> HOPE I still own!
> > IIRC,
> > my catalog was from 1941. Standard replaced Victor's
> ethnic series
> > c. 1945 (after the ban, when Victor was once again
> issuing records)
> > This seems to be a "transitional" document...issued as
> "Standard"
> > was replacing "Victor" on RCA etnicc records?
> > 
> > Steven C. Barr <<<