[78-L] Damage Control on Acoustic 78s?

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 8 22:48:09 PST 2010


Tyrone's listings show Victor 36029 as Victor Concert Orchestra with 'Ave
Maria' as matrix CVE.55669 recorded 4 September 1929, but nothing listed for
the other side (unknown?).....

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Dan Van Landingham <
danvanlandingham at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Regarding poor audio quality on 78 recordings.I had a beautiful arrangement
> of Charles Gounod's "Ave Maria" with the famous "accompaniment by the Bach
> Prelude No.l in C Major(from the first book of the
> Well Tempered Clavier).This was a Victor electric by the Victor Salon
> Orchestra as conducted by Rosario
> Bourdon dating from circa 1926-29.This was a great favourite of mine and I
> would love to know if anyone
> had ever heard of it.The copy I had was a circa 1938-41 Victor in the 30XXX
>  series(black label,bright
> gold ink which I referred to as "yellow gold" as opposed to the circa 1942
> and later Victors which had a'
> lighter gold colour think of white gold on your wedding band..This
> recording disappeared thanks to my
> sister in law who sold off much of my collection without my knowledge.When
> she told me about doing it,I
> was,to say the least,infuriated.It's an old story now but I would love to
> find another extant copy of it.The
> record was cut on a 12 inch master.The reverse was an orchestral
> arrangement of Schubert's "Ave Maria"
> again recorded by the same Victor group which I'm sure was a studio group.I
> dubbed it off in the early '90s
> and it came from the collection of a now deceased dear friend of mine who
> gave me an album which had
> contained it along with a dozen others in 1983.He passed away in the summer
> of 1987.My sister in law
> sold much of my collection back in 2004 and when I returned to Oregon later
> that year,that album was
> gone.I don't know is it was ever reissued by Victor,or now,BMG-Sony.By the
> way,when GE bought
> RCA in '85,why didn't EMI step in and claim the RCA Victor company as HMV
>  had merged with
> "British Columbia" in 1931 to form EMI.American Columbia was,from what I
> have recently read,taken
> over by the Grigsby-Grunow Company which manufactured the MAJESTIC radio in
> the '30s.Any info
> would be greatly appreciated by me as I would love to find another copy of
> that particular recording.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "beststuff4u at frontiernet.net" <beststuff4u at frontiernet.net>
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 6:29:05 PM
> Subject: [78-L] Damage Control on Acoustic 78s?
>
>
> They say ignorance is bliss, so that would make me extremely blissful.
>
> All these years I played 78s without recognition that there were factors
> under my control that could either cause or avoid damage to my records. The
> worst I ever experienced was poor sounding music. Now that I am aware of the
> possibilities of certain damage factors, I need to understand how to detect
> them before any damage is done. I'm preparing to make some equipment changes
> as well as to start listening to my most treasured acoustics that I have not
> played in many years. Until now I've only been playing electric 78s.
>
> The factors I am concerned about are:
>
> 1. Wrong stylus size.
> 2. Wrong stylus shape (i.e. conical, elliptical, truncated elliptical,etc.)
> 3. Improper tracking pressure.
> 4. Mismatch of cartridge to tonearm (tonearm weight and cartridge
> compliance).
>
> Rather than learn thru trial and error and ruin my acoustics, I am hoping
> that the esteemed members of this list can answer some very elementary
> questions.
>
> 1. For the four concerns listed above, how do damage potentials present
> themselves? Visual? Audio? Other?
> 2. I often read about "mistracking" as a potential to destroy a record in
> short order. How is mistracking recognized?
>
> Thank you for any help in getting me out of my blissful (i.e. ignorant)
> state.
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