[78-L] Advent of Electrical Recording

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Jan 23 20:33:30 PST 2010


Michael Biel wrote:
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> This W actually refers to World, which did the recording for Columbia
>> for a while in the early CBS period. I don't think Columbia was using
>> Western Electric after the early 30s.  dl
> 
> I think you have it backwards.  Wasn't it Decca where the lead matrix
> prefix letter W denotes World? Remember the discussion with Doug Pomoroy
> last week about the Decca vertical masters of the operettas?  And by the
> way, World used ONLY Western Electric equipment.  Their labels note that
> Sound Studios of NY was a Western Electric licensee.  
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

Decca bought World around 1942, probably to get at their 33RPM mastering 
process. I'm sure David Diehl will document Columbia's using World's facilities 
in 1939-40 while they were building their own.

dl
> 
> 
> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> Did Sacro also continue the payment of patent license royalties to WE after
>> its takeover of Columbia, and if so, for how long? None of the Columbias I
>> have from the Sacro era (wouldn't that be technically a more accurate name
>> for the post-Grigsby-Grunow/pre-CBS period?) have the W in the dead wax
>> (though I've seen labels of some I don't have, that showed the matrix number
>> as something like 'CO-W-1xxxx' or 'W-CO-1xxxx' that I presume did have the W
>> in their dead wax areas).
>>
>> I wonder why the W symbol reappears on some mid-1940s Columbias? I don't
>> mean repressings of, or even dubbed reissues, of previously released
>> electrical sides recorded by Columbia between 1925 and 1934 or so, but
>> mid-40s recordings.
>>
>> Here's a pair of examples of what I'm asking about: 17409-D, one side is
>> CO.35354-1, the other is CO.37025-2; 37351, matrices HCO.2138-1 and
>> HCO.2139-1 (37351 being 'Moten swing' by Harry James). On these records the
>> old W appears at the 3 o'clock position relative to the matrix numbers which
>> appear at the traditional 6 o'clock position.
>>
>> For how long were Victor and Columbia required to pay patent royalties to
>> WE? Only until the patents concerned ran out (and when did they do so)?
>>
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