[78-L] Total Recall

[David Lennick]

I've had the Bluebird Billy Holiday disc several times..not scarce at all.
Victor probably put out Helen's version when moving Shaw onto the higher priced 
label. They were probably glad to get rid of the guy when he moved over to 
Musicraft in 1946 because there are a lot of unissued Victor sides, including 
an album of mostly Gershwin tunes..numbers scheduled, issued only on AFRS of 
all places.

And Victor screamed bloody murder when Shaw recut Begin the Beguine and 
Musicraft had to replace that side. I believe the album containing it IS rare. 
On the other hand, I have it and so does a disc jockey in Edmonton.

dl

Dan Van Landingham wrote:
> Regarding Shaw's recording of  "Any Old Time" with the vocal by Holiday.I was under the 
> impression that Victor recalled those pressings due to Holiday's affiliations with Brunswick.
> I have a circa 1939 pressing of it I acquired with some other records.Billie Holiday 's name
> was mispelled as "Billy" Holiday.As regarding the Helen Forrest version,I recall that the 
> later Shaw recording featured a solo by Tony Pastor.I was of the impression that Georgie
> Auld took all of the solos from 1939 onward.
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/23/10, david.diehl at hensteeth.com <david.diehl at hensteeth.com> wrote:
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> 
> From: david.diehl at hensteeth.com <david.diehl at hensteeth.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Total Recall
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> Date: Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:07 PM
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> 
> Connor says "Did You Mean It?" Vi 25469 was deleted January 20, 1937 and implies that "Goodnight My Love" 25461 had at first passed unnoticed by Decca.. He also notes that some copies of the replacement 25461 (coupled with "T'ain't no Use") also used the Fitzgerald version.
> Victor issued Helen Forest's "Any Old Time" in April of '44 because Shaw's contract paid him $25K per quarter whether he was recording or not so RCA kept a lot of Shaw's discs in the catalog. It's not as common as the Bluebird but I wouldn't call it 'scarce.' Note that Helen muffs the lyric, too. I always wondered if Shaw prompted her to do that.
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> David Diehl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey Wheeler [mailto:dialjazz at verizon.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:32 PM
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: [78-L] Total Recall
> 
> Regarding the scarcity of the three Ella Fitzgerald recordings with Goodman on Victor, one question that hasn’t been addressed is where Russ Connor might have gotten his information about the recordings being withdrawn. If Decca had known about them before they were issued in January or early February 1937, it could have put the same kind of pressure on Victor to have Victor pull the records. Since Victor issued the recordings, obviously Decca didn’t. John Hammond might have been the source because he personally knew Decca management, and Hammond, of course, was affiliated with Goodman. Billie Holiday’s recording of “Any Old Time” made with Artie Shaw (BB B-7759) in July 1938 was re-recorded by Helen Forest March 1939 but not issued until the early 1940s in the 20 dash series (Vi 20-1575), backed by a reissue of “My Heart Stood Still” from BB B-10125, recorded January 1939. The Forest version is also said to be hard to find, but I have two
>  copies of both, so you can’t prove it by me. The Holiday version, rather than the Forest version, was reissued on V-Disc 399. Shaw’s recording is oddly paired with a medley of waltzes.Geoffrey Wheeler_______________________________________________78-L mailing list78-L at klickitat.78online.comhttp://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
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