[78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS

Don Chichester dnjchi78 at live.com
Fri Jan 22 13:47:29 PST 2010


Did Buchanan and Goodman have to pay royalties for all the 'samples' in their 'space ship' novelty discs?

Don
 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:40:25 -0500
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
> 
> I have a "dub blues" record which not only samples a 78, it's pressed as a 
> ten-incher with a small repro OKeh label in a repro OKeh sleeve! Contains 
> elements from Howlin' Wolf/The Chess Box and "Ride On" by Leadbelly, courtesy 
> of Rounder Records (!). The disc is Little Axe's "Ride On".
> 
> Great to see all the original OKeh sleeve elements ("the record of quality", 
> "plays on any standard disc machine", plugs for Sophie Tucker, Vincent Lopez 
> etc) except that they changed the playing speed to 33 1/3rpm.
> 
> dl
> 
> Tim Huskisson wrote:
> > These Hip Hop artists are sampling older music simply because they can. The
> > technology allows this. It's the modern equivalent of copying the style of
> > an earlier musician. Whether making music from 'loops' and samples is as
> > creative as actually playing a musical instrument... I doubt. 
> > 
> > This thread has had nothing to do with 78s, but out of curiosity...
> > Some years ago I was working in Italy where I heard an Italian Rap track 'La
> > Findanzata' by a group known as Articolo31. What was interesting about it
> > was that they'd sampled a 78rpm era recording (Maybe an early 1930s dance
> > band?) and used it for 'loops' throughout the record. It's on YouTube at 
> > www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR-vk3IosWg
> > 
> > 
> > Tim Huskisson
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Cary Ginell
> > Sent: 22 January 2010 16:42
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Copyright Criminals on PBS
> > 
> > 
> > .......by sampling previously recorded tracks, these producers are robbing
> > youngsters the opportunity to create their own music. Back in "the day,"
> > you'd scour the musician's union directories when you were short a musician.
> > Now, all these thieves have to do is go to a swap meet, buy an LP, and steal
> > what's in the grooves. It's insidious, it's disgusting, and it is
> > technically illegal. I think that these hip-hop producers are doing a lot
> > more harm than good with their unethical practices that they rationalize as
> > "doing our thang."
> > 
> > Cary Ginell
> > 
> > 
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