[78-L] Chalking up a "borrowed" song idea (was: Kate Smith stamp)

[Bertrand CHAUMELLE]

The older song is trivial (as usual with Cantor material), the newer 
song is poetic. Praise Hayes and Goell instead.

BC
Le 9 janv. 10, à 05:19, David Lennick a écrit :

>
> Don'tcha go a-blamin' Hoagy..the song was written by Clancy Hayes and 
> Kermit
> Goell, and was also a hit for The Old Professor.
>
> dl
>
> Michael Biel wrote:
>> I've been trying to figure out who accidentally merged my paragraph
>> about "She Gave Them All the Ha Ha Ha" with the statement "That's a 
>> line
>> from "Huggin' And Chalkin" (1946-7)." as if I said it. (Could it have
>> been  "L78rpm at aol.com" aka "pc" whoever he is??) I didn't add that
>> sentence because I don't know the later song.  So I checked it out and
>> it seems that Hoagy Carmichael STOLE the idea from the song I 
>> discussed
>> that was written and recorded twenty five years  earlier!!  I see it
>> listed as recorded by Eddie Cantor, but I have it on a Phantasie 
>> Concert
>> pasteover label (the original might have been a Lyric (?)).
>>
>> Hoagy put it in the 40s:
>>
>> "You have to take a piece of chalk in your hand
>> And hug a ways and chalk a mark to see where you began
>> One day I was a-huggin' and a-chalkin' and a-chalkin' and a-huggin' 
>> away
>> When I met another fella with some chalk in his hand
>> A-comin' around the other way over the mountain"
>>
>> The older song from 1920 goes:
>>
>> "I never get my arms around her,
>> But one night I tried.
>> I got three-quarters way around her,
>> Then I almost died,
>> For I met another fellow coming 'round the other side,
>> And she gave us both the Ha Ha Ha,
>> The Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha."
>>
>> So somewhere in the deep recesses of Hoagy's mind was this earlier 
>> song
>> which he unconsciously stole, er, borrowed from.
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>
>> mbiel at mbiel.com writes (all but the final line, of course):
>>
>> Just before Kate's stardom and during the era of Vaughn DeLeath, there
>> was a popular song in the 20s "She Gave Them All the Ha Ha Ha" about a
>> lovable "girl about 5'4" who weighs 200 pounds or more", who when the
>> singer hugged her "met another fellow coming 'round the other side".
>> That's a line from "Huggin' And Chalkin" (1946-7).
>>
>>
>> pc
>>
>
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