[78-L] A word of warning concerning playback of Warner"BigBand" set Re: They are practically Giving away theVitaphone DVD set!

[Martin Fisher]

Uhh..  Maybe that should have been indispensable "DELETE" button.  :-)

Martin(i)?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Fisher" <wmfisher at mtsu.edu>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] A word of warning concerning playback of Warner"BigBand" 
set Re: They are practically Giving away theVitaphone DVD set!


> Hey Mike,
>
> I'm a fan of the indisposable "DELETE" button when it comes to the lists 
> so
> probably didn't read your earlier post of warning after the fiftieth 
> message
> in the thread....
>
> Yep.  I'm relegated to watching this DVD set in the bedroom on a little 13
> inch monitor, sitting in front of the computer, or reconfiguring my living
> room setup temporarily.  This, along with the comment by our resident IT 
> guy
> stating that our server would be much better off if we replaced all those
> unwieldy archival uncompressed 96/24 wav files with mp3s, just makes my 
> day.
> ;-)
>
> Martini
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] A word of warning concerning playback of Warner
> "BigBand" set Re: They are practically Giving away the Vitaphone DVD set!
>
>
>>I brought this exact thing up last week, although not in the message you
>> reprinted.  I found it would not play in the Sony drive in my computer
>> nor in my Discmaker copier (which we use to duplicate Leah's
>> documentary), but would play in a Magnavox recorder, and a Philips
>> player.  I did not test it in my Ilo or LiteOn recorders because I do
>> not trust them anyway.   They obviously do not want them being ripped in
>> computers, and this might affect how a stand-alone recorder's drive see
>> them, but it makes no sense to purposefully disable their playback in a
>> recorder, since it is the recorder you would use to take the signal from
>> a player!!    Actually, the copier's play-only input drive did read the
>> disc but said it was RCC protected and would not proceed.  So that is
>> the answer of the other question about what would happen if you do get
>> it to play in a computer.
>>
>>
>> Frankly it would be a pain for some people if they can't play it in
>> their computer because that is some people's entertainment center.  The
>> RCC copy protection should be enough to protect ripping by most ordinary
>> people, so why did they have to go the extra step.  In the past there
>> have been threats by the disc authorities to demand trademark removal
>> from discs that have things that restrict PLAYING, such as when the CD
>> authority threatened Columbia when they put in some programs that
>> damaged computers that merely played certain CDs a few years ago.  Note
>> that these discs contain a DVD "Download" trademark.  This must have
>> some allowance for how these discs act.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>
>> From: "Martin Fisher" <wmfisher at mtsu.edu>
>>
>>
>> Just a note concerning the playability of this set.
>>
>> The back of the box is flagged with this statement, verbatim.
>>
>> "This disc is expected to play back in DVD video "play only" devices,
>> and
>> may ot play back in other DVD devices, including recorders and PC
>> drives."
>>
>> So far, disc 1 plays back in a Coby and Toshiba DVD player and Plextor
>> DVD
>> PC drive. Other PC DVD drives come up as not recognizing the region
>> code.
>> I also have a Sony DVD recorder that will not load the discs.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] They are practically Giving away the Vitaphone DVD
>> set!
>>
>>
>> > From: "Steve Shapiro" <steveshapiro1 at juno.com>
>> >> When you order the 6 dvd set, a code comes up which says MOD.
>> >> The company says that MOD dvds are not mass-produced, but Made On
>> Demand.
>> >> I presume this is each time someone orders such items.
>> >
>> > Yes, this was discussed when the Warner Archive series was first
>> > introduced back a year or two ago. I mentioned in my discussions here
>> > that these are DVD-Rs but are nicely printed so that you wouldn't
>> > notice. It is designed to allow for items of limited interest without
>> > having to warehouse quantities or distribute them to stores. This is
>> > similar to what Greenwood Press is doing for some of its
>> discographies,
>> > and what the Smithsonian does with the Folkways and Cook recordings.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps our business is keeping someone in job./steve
>> >
>> > That is a nice thought in this economy, and I am happy to support
>> this
>> > end of the commercial disc business because it is giving the company
>> a
>> > clear denotation of what materials ARE of interest. Each sale here is
>> a
>> > definite sale, while sending them to stores can often result in
>> returns
>> > from the store. If films like these sell well enough to support their
>> > production, hopefully more will be released. I have a feeling that
>> this
>> > set is partially a result of the interest in the Jazz Singer box,
>> both
>> > in sales and in word of mouth/internet.
>> >
>> > Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 78-L mailing list
>> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
>> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> 78-L mailing list
> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l