[78-L] Happy Birthday to You

[Taylor Bowie]

The most totally crappy,  Satanic,  nasty,  and CHEAP pressing I know of is 
the ARC (only seen it on Melotone) of the Joe Haymes of  "Sittin' On the 
Moon" which I also happen to like a lot...clearly it was pressed on old 
ground-up chicken bones or something.

Some of these ARC sides can also be found on laminated pressings,  which 
play very well.

Anyone ever seen that particular Haymes side on a laminated? Mostly the 
laminated ones seem to be the slightly earlier green Melotones,  not the 
late blue ones.

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You


> Don't forget that the needle had to stay in the groove, against formidable
> odds..mechanical problems, floor vibrations, jitterbugs, drunks falling 
> against
> the juke box. And I've posted a story previously that tells how ARC
> deliberately pressed its budget label juke box discs on the worst crap
> available so that the discs would wear out in just a few plays and have to 
> be
> reserviced just about every week.
>
> dl
>
> Sean Miller wrote:
>> I've heard of it!  Those things had suggested tonearm pressure of 
>> something
>> like 12 OUNCES at the time (I'
>> m going by fading memory here from my 1939 Wurlitzer manual).  I have two
>> '39 Wurlitzers here, one full sized and one countertop model and I've
>> modified the tonearms and cartridges in both to track at around 8-10 
>> grams.
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:30 PM
>> To: 78-L Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You
>>
>> Nobody here ever hear a record referred to as "juked"? Jeff Healey used 
>> that
>>
>> expression all the time.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>> Years ago I read an article in Downbeat on junking for 78s.  The writer
>>> recalled finding a copy of the Bob Crosby Decca of  It's Wonderful b/w
>> Just
>>> Strolling.   The first side ( a very nice but run-of-the mill pop side)
>> was
>>> worn flat,  but the flip,  a feature for Joe Sullivan,  was  "as new."
>>>
>>> Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sean Miller" <smille1 at nycap.rr.com>
>>> To: "'78-L Mail List'" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 12:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yup.  AMI had the first selectable jukebox that could do both sides, 
>>>> but
>>>> not
>>>> until 1945-ish (?).  I have all the 78s my Great Grandfather 
>>>> confiscated
>>>> from mob run juke operations in the 1930s and as you say, some sides 
>>>> are
>>>> worn white and the other side is E+.  What gets me even now is that
>>>> sometimes the crappy side is the one they chose to program!
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Bowie
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:01 PM
>>>> To: 78-L Mail List
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know that...it explains why some old juke box records are grey
>> to
>>>> white on one side,  and clean on the other.
>>>>
>>>> Taylor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Sean Miller" <smille1 at nycap.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'78-L Mail List'" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It may have been intended for jukebox play.  Remember, then, no
>> jukeboxes
>>>>> could play both sides of a 78, it was one or the other....
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>>>>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Bowie
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:54 PM
>>>>> To: 78-L Mail List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Happy Birthday to You
>>>>>
>>>>> Cary,  I've wondered if the thing was really intended for juke box 
>>>>> play,
>>>>> perhaps in more rural areas...so they backed it with a more pop-ish
>>>>> Western
>>>>> swing side.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought it BECAUSE of the Happy Birthday...and the other side was 
>>>>> just
>> a
>>>>> nice bonus for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sending your article as well... a strange story which still
>>>>> has
>>>>> no ending.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taylor
>>>>>
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