[78-L] 14 inch Victor Special DeLuxe

[David Lennick]

With very few exceptions, everyone who sells a phonograph at the CAPS auction 
has it running too fast, and demonstrates it with a Billy Murray record.

dl

Royal Pemberton wrote:
> I saw someone else's YT video where the title had been 'Blue champagne' by
> Charlie Ventura, but it's actually 'Euphoria' played at probably something
> like 82 rpm on an outside-horn Victor!  I posted a comment that it's
> 'Euphoria' going at that speed, and I just saw that he's changed the song
> title, and commented 'Thanks, yes of course it is Euphoria. The National
> records were awful quality pressings.'  (No, I'm not going to post the
> question there of would it have been better if they'd cut it at 82!)
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Quick, somebody lend him "Zulu's Ball".
>>
>> dl
>>
>> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote:
>>> No idea who it is, but note that in the comments section, he is being
>> asked to at least use fibre needle when playing that priceless Williams &
>> Walker record from 1901, probably only one of a handful known to exist !!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:29:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: [78-L] 14 inch Victor Special DeLuxe
>>>
>>> I stumbled across this on U Tube. He plays a 14 inch Special DeLuxe
>>> 2030 The Flying Dutchman making great care supposedly to play it at the
>>> appropriate 60 RPM but it IS actually being played at 45 and he is
>>> getting all bent out of shape when people tell him that it is at 45. You
>>> can count the speed yourself. Actually he says that he is playing it
>>> at the speed where it sounds right to him. Aside from the fact that he
>>> is playing the record on a VERY NOISY Victor D (which badly needs at
>>> least one new gear) and the record sounds much worse than it should by
>>> being played acoustically (I once dubbed off Fred Williams' collection
>>> of about 14 of these huge babies and they sounded GREAT electrically)
>>> does the key it is being played in at this speed sound right to the
>>> musicians in this group??? I know the tempo is m-u-c-h t-o-o
>>> s-l-o-w but how about the key??
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ILU5VTMLyM&feature=related
>>>
>>> By the way, it will also shock most of you to see him butcher a copy of
>>> Williams and Walker "I Don't Like the Face You Wear" on Monarch 987 on
>>> that same Model D with a needle that is LOOSE!! Look at the needle as
>>> he puts the reproducer on the record.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFzJdjhWRE8&feature=related
>>>
>>> And does anybody know who this guy is??
>>>
>>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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