[78-L] 14 inch Victor Special DeLuxe

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 3 11:56:41 PST 2009


I saw someone else's YT video where the title had been 'Blue champagne' by
Charlie Ventura, but it's actually 'Euphoria' played at probably something
like 82 rpm on an outside-horn Victor!  I posted a comment that it's
'Euphoria' going at that speed, and I just saw that he's changed the song
title, and commented 'Thanks, yes of course it is Euphoria. The National
records were awful quality pressings.'  (No, I'm not going to post the
question there of would it have been better if they'd cut it at 82!)

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Quick, somebody lend him "Zulu's Ball".
>
> dl
>
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote:
> > No idea who it is, but note that in the comments section, he is being
> asked to at least use fibre needle when playing that priceless Williams &
> Walker record from 1901, probably only one of a handful known to exist !!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2009 2:29:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: [78-L] 14 inch Victor Special DeLuxe
> >
> > I stumbled across this on U Tube. He plays a 14 inch Special DeLuxe
> > 2030 The Flying Dutchman making great care supposedly to play it at the
> > appropriate 60 RPM but it IS actually being played at 45 and he is
> > getting all bent out of shape when people tell him that it is at 45. You
> > can count the speed yourself. Actually he says that he is playing it
> > at the speed where it sounds right to him. Aside from the fact that he
> > is playing the record on a VERY NOISY Victor D (which badly needs at
> > least one new gear) and the record sounds much worse than it should by
> > being played acoustically (I once dubbed off Fred Williams' collection
> > of about 14 of these huge babies and they sounded GREAT electrically)
> > does the key it is being played in at this speed sound right to the
> > musicians in this group??? I know the tempo is m-u-c-h t-o-o
> > s-l-o-w but how about the key??
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ILU5VTMLyM&feature=related
> >
> > By the way, it will also shock most of you to see him butcher a copy of
> > Williams and Walker "I Don't Like the Face You Wear" on Monarch 987 on
> > that same Model D with a needle that is LOOSE!! Look at the needle as
> > he puts the reproducer on the record.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFzJdjhWRE8&feature=related
> >
> > And does anybody know who this guy is??
> >
> > Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>
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