[78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?!

[bruce78rpm at comcast.net]

The final point I wish to make hopefully without jumping into the Shark Pool again, is that the family stone, was probably purchased by Billy himself when he purchased the Family cemetery plot years before his death. Some folks at that point actually have their names inscribed with just their birth dates and a dash, others as in this case, just leave the family name in place, and wait for each subsequent passing to inscribe the name and dates for each family member. In this case, I would wager a dollar to a donut (and of course I could be wrong believe me) that because of either a lack of funds, or the passage of time, it was forgotten. So here we are 55 years after his passing, and recognition of this man's life at his own grave site, is still not a reality. Enough said, time to move on. Thanks. 

Bruce 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca> 
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:40:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 

We agree! And Billy Murray is not exactly forgotten, since there are websites 
and reissues out there..when is Ryan Barna going to wade into this shark pool? 

dl 

bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
> Very eloquently put, except for the expletive of course. If you checked my prior emails, I explained what can sometimes happen when there is a lack of surviving heirs and funds to properly direct that inscriptions be put in place at the grave site for each individual to be interred their. Again, if it is the wish of the surviving heirs that nothing more be done, and Billy's grave simply be marked by what is the family Stone "Murray", then it is a dead idea (no pun intended), and in my opinion as an ardent collector and preservationist of his records and legacy, a most noble one !! 
> 
> 
> Bruce 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Lennick " < dlennick @ sympatico .ca> 
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l@ klickitat .78online.com> 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 1:28:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
> 
> I beg your pardon. I did not make an accusation, I expressed an opinion. And I 
> stand by it. The message was terse because I didn't feel like rambling on about 
> the morbidity of public visits to gravesites , which I find nauseating in the 
> extreme, whether they're to a little site or f* cking Graceland. The man died, 
> his family marked his burial place. 
> 
> dl 
> 
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
>> I totally agree, but it is not my hatchet, I did not make that terse unnecessary comment. He made an accusation and I responded accordingly. As far as I am concerned the matter of the dueling comments is closed. Not the Billy Murray Tribute matter. 
>> 
>> Bruce 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: " simmonssomer " < simmonssomer @comcast.net> 
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l@ klickitat .78online.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:16:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
>> 
>> Bruce, 
>> Mr. Lennick has been a distinguished and most important member of this list 
>> for a long time . 
>> As you are a funeral expert, please bury that hatchet of yours. 
>> You don't earn your bones this way. 
>> 
>> Al Simmons 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> 
>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l@ klickitat .78online.com> 
>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:53 AM 
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
>> 
>> 
>>> It's an Idea, not our GD Business. It is a personal matter, I know that, I 
>>> work in the Funeral Industry and have been burying folks for the past 10 
>>> years !!!!! It only becomes our business if the IDEA is approved by the 
>>> heirs and we are Allowed to Poceed . So if the heirs don't want to honor 
>>> this man who deserves to be honored, then it is their GD business not 
>>> mine, not yours not anybodys and I know that !! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bruce 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David Lennick " < dlennick @ sympatico .ca> 
>>> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l@ klickitat .78online.com> 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:16:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
>>> 
>>> Excuse me, but how could this possibly be any of our goddam business? A 
>>> tombstone inscription is a very personal matter. 
>>> 
>>> dl 
>>> 
>>> bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
>>>> It looks like there would be plenty of room to put a flat marker for 
>>>> Billy directly in front of the Family "Murray" Stone, could you check on 
>>>> that and see if that would be permissible ? I would think so. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: bobhope @ optonline .net 
>>>> To: 78-l@ klickitat .78online.com 
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:58:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
>>>> 
>>>> The section of the cemetery where Billy Murray is buried has narrow 
>>>> graves. There is only room for a small stone, and the cemetery has rules 
>>>> as to the height the stone may be. There is another grave backed up to 
>>>> his grave, and the headstone for that grave is backed onto his, making 
>>>> the reverse side unusable for inscription. My mother and father are 
>>>> buried in a similar site nearby. 
>>>> 
>>>> The next time I'm in the area I'll check to see if the grave index 
>>>> indicates if Billy's wife is buried with him. As far as adding any 
>>>> inscriptions to the stone, I believe that the plot owner, probably some 
>>>> family member, however distant, would have to approve it. I know that to 
>>>> have my mother's name added to the existing stone for my father I had to 
>>>> produce the deed to the plot. If the cemetery office is open when I'm 
>>>> there I'll inquire about it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Lang 
>>>> 
>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:43:46 +0000 ( UTC ) 
>>>> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net 
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Billy Murray Tribute?! 
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>>>> 
>>>> Strange how there is no inscription on the reverse side of the Stone with 
>>>> his full name and dates of birth and passing. Is his wife buried in the 
>>>> same plot ? Since it was just him and his wife, and Billy had no 
>>>> children, maybe there was no one to order the stone mason to complete the 
>>>> job. I see many gravestones where this is the case, there are no 
>>>> remaining heirs or the ones that remain just forget to do the 
>>>> inscriptions, and after awhile the process is totally forgotten and lost 
>>>> with time. How sad. 
>>>> 
>>>> Bruce 
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