[78-L] Gennett questions

[Malcolm Rockwell]

This 85000 matrix series of Gennett's all look like renumbered matrices 
from outside sources.
If you're interested (David & Taylor and anyone else) I can send you a 
.doc file of the series that has been documented so far. One of the 
curious items is that the first number in the series would seem to be (I 
say "seem to be" because the fact that I have no earlier numbers does 
not mean there are none... then again...) mx. 85044 by Trixie Smith. The 
last is mx. 85391 by Elnore Johnson (sic) on Black Patti 8033, which was 
not released on Gennett.
I show only 20 entries in this matrix series to date.
Verrrrry curious.
Mal

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David Lennick wrote:
> The original matrix numbers are E2056 and E2057, from Jack Litchfield's 
> Canadian Jazz Discography. Issued as Apex 729, Starr Gennett 23019, Domino 
> 21506, Microphone 22508, Leonora 23019, Gennett 5750. Credited as Vera Hardman 
> on Domino and Max Darewski on Microphone. The Jim Kidd article in RR 76 lists 
> the Gennett as coming from the Montreal sessions.
>
> So did Gennett obliterate the Apex matrix numbers and add their own, do the 
> original ones appear anywhere, or was the disc dubbed? Apex pressed Gennett in 
> Canada for many years and was doing electrical recording domestically and for 
> Pathe, so it's not a stretch for Gennett to issue these two sides.
>
> dl
>
> Malcolm Rockwell wrote:
>   
>> Gennett hadn't gone electric, but I believe Marsh did in Chicago, and 
>> Marsh and Gennett had ties this early. Can you cite other matrices in 
>> this 85000 series that prove that these two sides were recorded in Montreal?
>> My research shows these two sides were the sole Gennett releases of hers.
>> Mal
>>
>> *******
>>
>> David Lennick wrote:
>>     
>>> It should be electrical..Montreal, December 11, 1925. Since Gennett hadn't gone 
>>> to electrical recording by that time, this would have been something unique for 
>>> them. Other recordings she made for Apex were issued on Pathe and Perfect. She 
>>> also made many piano rolls.
>>>
>>> Born in England in 1902, came to Canada as a child, played for silent films at 
>>> the Regent Theatre in Montreal when she was 14.
>>>
>>> Not bad looking either..
>>> http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/archives/500ans/portail_archives_en/rep_chapitre9/chap9_theme4_doc33_page1.html
>>>
>>> Here's her entry in the Canadian Music Enyclopedia, which will refer you to an 
>>> article by Jim Kidd in Record Research #76.
>>> http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=U1ARTU0001469
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I just got a copy of this great pair of piano solos:
>>>>
>>>> 5750A Vera Guileroff Sleepy Time Gal 85215 - - Feb 1926
>>>> 5750B Vera Guileroff I'm Sitting On Top Of The World (Just Rolling Along - 
>>>> Just Rolling Along) 85216
>>>>
>>>> A few questions..
>>>>
>>>> Where was it recorded?  How prolific a recording artist was she (Rust lists 
>>>> a few and says she was Canadian)?
>>>>
>>>> Also...this is on the old-style blue label but underneath the artist credit 
>>>> it says "Electrically recorded."  Are there many of these 5700s which are 
>>>> labeled that way?  IS it in fact electric?  I'm not sure...there is a very 
>>>> odd sort of fade-out on the second side near the end.  I don't recall ever 
>>>> seeing one  with those words on the label  and I don't think I have any of 
>>>> the 5700s on Tyrone's list.  Was this issued at the time of the red label 
>>>> Gennetts and if so why the old label style?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any info.  BTW Vera could really play!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Taylor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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