[78-L] Grammatically incorrect

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Sat Sep 19 07:43:31 PDT 2009


As a writer and editor, I am bound by the rules of the Chicago Manual of Style, which is the house rule book for the company I work for. Certain things are relaxed a bit, however, such as ending a sentence in a preposition. I'm allowed to do that. 

 

However, you should never start a sentence with "however." I fall off the wagon sometimes.

 

Incidentally, I NEVER use the comma in PP&M. 

 

Cary Ginell
 
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:57:54 +0100
> From: julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Grammatically incorrect
> 
> Graeme Jaye wrote:
> > Hi Cary
> > 
> > On 18/09/2009 you wrote;
> > 
> > CG> Getting back to Mary Travers, I think that it's unfortunate
> > CG> that for all these years, "Peter, Paul and Mary" was incorrect.
> > CG> The Chicago Manual of Style indicates that it should have an extra
> > CG> comma: "Peter, Paul, and Mary."
> > 
> > Must be an "across the pond" thing.
> > 
> > In the UK, I was taught that a comma should *never* precede 'and'. But
> > then, what do we Brits know about the English language?
> > 
> > Looking at it, at a more basic level, the comma indicates a slight
> > pause in the spoken text. That being the case, try reading the two
> > versions out loud incorporating these pauses. Which one flows better?
> > 
> > Graeme Jaye
> -------
> The comma makes "Mary" either sound like an afterthought ("and, by the 
> way, Mary") or an emphasis ("and not forgetting Mary"!). Incidentally, I 
> don't put a comma before "etc".
> 
> Julian Vein
> 
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