[78-L] Asch release

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Thu Sep 17 06:34:59 PDT 2009


The Stinson pressings are almost always very noisy. And the Stinson and Asch 
names are interchangeable once Stinson took over the catalog. I have a set of 
JATP Volume 1 with three different label names and styles (1 per disc).

Matrix numbers are often a mess, sometimes scratched out and rewritten, so two 
with the same number is entirely possible as well.

dl

Glenn Longwell wrote:
> I went to go check my Jerry Jerome Trio set (number 359) and it was Stinson, not Asch.  This just came in from a good sized collection I picked up with a lot of stuff like this and reissue jazz.  I hadn't listened to this set yet but when I looked at it I noticed there were two songs with the same matrix number, 511.  Anyway, the set visually is in E condition but listened to a couple sides and they are very noisy pressings.  Is this typical?  Maybe a different sized stylus would help.
>  
> Glenn
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl>
> Subject: [78-L] Asch release
> To: "78-L" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 3:57 PM
> 
> 
> I found the following Asch matrix numbers for 1944-early 1945:
> 
> 601-608 Jerry Jerome 28-2-44
> 651-656, 662 Mary Lou Williams 12-3-44 (Asch 450)
> 688 Sonny Terry-Guthrie &c (Asch 432-2-A)
> 710-715 Mary Lou Williams 10-8-44
> 716 Poems by Langston Hughes (Asch 4542)
> 728-732, 746 Meade Lux Lewis 18-8-44
> 736-742 Stuff Smith 8-9-44
> 760-767 Kirby - poss 26-9-44 [26-4-45]
> 780-784 Mary Lou Williams & Josh White (Asch 2001) 11-12-44
> 790-796 Hawkins 11-1-45
> 819-824 Jerry Jerome 7-11-44
> 
> This agrees with the Sep 44 date for Kirby.
> But how about Jerry Jerome mxs 819-824 on 11/7 (7 Nov) 44? Misreading for 2/7 (7 Feb) 45?
> 
> Han Enderman
> ===
> My copy of Delaunay automatically falls open at the page listing this session. 
> And this FINALLY proves that it couldn't possibly have been recorded April 26, 
> 1945. My contention was that nearby matrix numbers put it in mid 1944, and 
> handwritten notes say "possibly September /44" and "9/44 misread as 4/44".
> 
> dl
> 
> Cary Ginell wrote:
>> OK, thanks! 
>>
>>   
>>
>> Cary
>>   
>>> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:31:37 -0700
>>> From: glongwell at snet.net
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Asch release
>>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>>   
>>> I don't know if you ever found this answer but I was weeding through many 78-l emails that I never opened and found this one.
>>>   
>>> The April 7, 1945 Billboard has this listed in the "Advance Record Release" section so it would have come out, according to the listing, within a couple weeks of that.
>>>   
>>> Albums 351, 355, 356 and 358 also had David Stone Martin covers.
>>>   
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
>>> Subject: [78-L] Asch release
>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:25 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know the approximate month the 78 rpm album set by John Kirby & his Orchestra (Asch 357) was released? It has a David Stone Martin cover.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cary Ginell
> <<<



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