[78-L] A Folk Music Playlist covering ALL recording formats! WORTH reading!

[Michael Biel]

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 Subject: Re: [78-L] A Folk Music Playlist covering ALL recording
 formats! WORTH reading!
 From: Bertrand CHAUMELLE <chaumelle at orange.fr>
 Date: Sun, September 06, 2009 1:20 pm
 To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 
 
 Le 6 sept. 09, à 17:35, Michael Biel a écrit :
 
 > and there was an
 > European system of pre-recorded embossed endless loop film sold in
the
 > 50s and early 60s which name escapes me.
 
 ***The Tefifon ?

That's it.  We never had it over here.

 > , and the various sizes of celluloid Liroit cylinders.
 
 ***You mean Lioret ?

Right.  My French spelling is equaled only by my French pronunciation.  

 > So, as you can see, you have just scratched the surface with
recording
 > systems on your program. I could also include many OTHER recording
 > systems that have been used over the years.
 
 ***What about the Vicalloy tape experiments by Bell Labs before the War

 ?   BC
 
 You might have one on me.  Refresh my memory on this one.

>> Don't forget Decelith and Decatone one sided and two sided black or
translucent vinyl 3 layers sandwiched foil blanks (10" and 12") used
widely
in Europe (especially in Germany, but also in countries they were
marketing
and selling their cutting machines, i.e. Hungary), 78rpm and perhaps
33rpm
(not confirmed as used speed for recording exactly).

I've mentioned them in discussions here but could have included them in
that list although I was doing mainly things used here in the U.S. in
that reply.  The Decelith discs are one piece solid vinyl but the 3
layer discs with the central white plastic core I remember being another
name which also escapes me right now.  Is that what you are referring to
as Decatone?


>> These foils were used
for recording purposes mainly in radio stations, but also on amateurish
machines from around 1937 till 1948. and later on. When, after the war
in
short of such blanks, amateur recording enthusiast used thick X-ray
films,

The Qualiton LPs of the Complete Bartok recordings indicate that some of
the 1938 broadcast recordings were also made on x-ray film which REALLY
surprised me.  I also thought it was only post war and cold war.  But
the Soviet x-ray records I have seen were not on thick film but were on
film that seems to be the same thickness as regular snapshot film.  That
was the big surprise to me when I saw them (and got one example) when I
spent the summer in Moscow in 1995.

>> and the othes side of Decelith foils marked as one sided (were also
recordable, but in worse sound, unless marked as two sided recordeable).

The Deceliths I've seen and have have a white printed label on one side.
 Is that the recordable side?  I've never seen any indication that one
side was better than the other, or any notice to use this side only or
not to use the other side.  

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com