[78-L] United Artist Records (was: Red Ingle Questions)

Malcolm Rockwell malcolm at 78data.com
Sun Aug 16 11:37:37 PDT 2009


The more I see of United Artist - the dark maroon label with silver 
lettering out of Los Angeles - the more I think it to be a indy label. 
And by indy I mean not an independent corporate entity or sole 
proprietorship, but a label that hustled to release records of a 
personal nature.
The small artist - or group of artists, in the case of all the 
recordings first released on the Hawaiian Bell label that were reissued 
when Bell's major artists broke away and formed their own label entity - 
could go to Bell and have their pre-recorded product, whether on lacquer 
or on tape, pressed in small amounts for their own distribution. It 
seems that Bell also had a distributing arm for those who wanted that 
service. It has not been proven to my satisfaction that Bell itself 
recorded anything!
Kind of a unique business.
Mal

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David Lennick wrote:
> UA in this case means "United Artist", no relation to the film studio or later 
> label. This UA also duplicated Variety (the mid 40s label, not the 30s one that 
> was part of Master).
>
> As for the other "why didn't they" questions, they probably decided that only a 
> single CD was worth doing.
>
> Great source for info and photos but I prefer the original 78s in many cases. 
> And check out the Jo Stafford Capitol CD which has studio patter (or a 
> breakdown, I forget which) before "Tim-Tay-Shun". I didn't know about the skip 
> on "Hannah"..as I say, I have virtually all of the original 78s. Seems to me 
> that one track is transferred seriously off speed as well.
>
> dl
>
> agp wrote:
>   
>> I was going through my Red Ingle stuff and came up with a few questions
>>
>> First regards the Bear Family CD. There seems to be a mastering error 
>> on my copy. Track 5 - Git up off'n the Floor Hanna - has a 'skip' 
>> during the intro: "Sing it sad and play it right cause we got bad 
>> (news) tonite". The skip is at the word "news". Can anyone else who 
>> owns this CD tell me if this was ever corrected.
>>
>> As great as the CD is, I have to wonder why they left off some tracks 
>> from Red's history. Bear Family is usually very complete, leading 
>> (unfortunately) to pricey multi-CD sets. Issues of cross label 
>> licencing seem to never be an issue, yet in this case the 'Red Ingle 
>> and the Vocal Yokels' tracks are missing,  unreleased Capitol tracks 
>> that did make it out later in Australia are missing, the Snader 
>> transcription tracks that came out of Spinorama, as are the tracks he 
>> did for Mercury (2 issued, 2 not).
>>
>> So - some questions:
>>
>> a) The 'Red Ingle and the Vocal Yokels' tracks (I Tipped My Hat and 
>> Slowly Rode Away/ It Ain't Never Hurt Me None So Far) came out on 
>> Enterprise 299 and later UA 330. By UA do they mean United Artists? 
>> And if so, is it not possible that EMI now owns them and they could 
>> have been included.
>>
>> b) Bear Family makes reference to 2 Australian Red Ingle anthologies 
>> -- supposedly on LP. Does anyone have any info on these? One appears 
>> to be titled "Cigareets,Whisky & Hillbilly Masterpieces" and is on 
>> the Axis label -- an EMI imprint. I have no info past that, but from 
>> the CD liner notes, it would appear that these have some of the 
>> unreleased Capitol tracks
>>
>> c) The Snader Transcriptions were released on a cheapo LP by 
>> Spinorama. Not much more is given as background. Any more info appreciated.
>>
>> d) The LP/CD column of the Bear Family CD make reference to 2 
>> unexplained catalogue numbers T 1488 and T 011. Can anyone fill in 
>> the blank here as to what these were?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> T
>>
>>     
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