[78-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's

[bruce78rpm at comcast.net]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd-0f94xcPE 

Ok, here it is up on You Tube "Ain't dat a shame", A Coon song Ragtime Classic, who is the artist, Collins, Denny, Roberts, Quinn?? Maybe even a very very early Eddie Morton (a bit too early for him I suspect). 

Bruce 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Ventresco" <craigventresco at gmail.com> 
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Hi, 
Early Columbia records like these can have the same serial numbers and 
different artists, depending on which take you get. For example, in my 
collection I have three versions of Columbia 876 "Mr. Dooley". One is by 
Edward M. Favor, one by Joe Natus and one by Will F. Denny. Some of these 
were originally Climax records (and some of those first were issued on 
Globe). In other words, you need check the take numbers, and then refer to 
Tim Brooks' Columbia discography. OR--play them because they might be 
announced. My 7" Columba of Bill Bailey is by Roberts, but I also have a ten 
inch by Collins (same serial number, of course). I have Ain't Dat a Shame by 
Denny, but have heard other takes by other artists. These are both from 
1902. I guess back then Columbia and other companies considered the artists 
interchangable, and the songs themselves to sell the records. I am no expert 
on this stuff, but I am really into early discs like these, and probably 
could tell you who is singing on yours if you want to put them on here. 
I knew one collector who was really into Edward M. Favor and searched for 
years for a copy of Columbia 111 ("Who threw the Overhaulls in Mistress 
Murphy's Chowder?" ) as sung by him. and kept turning them up by Denny, 
Quinn...but no Favor. Finally he found one. 
Columbia issued so many takes of some titles in these early days that the 
collector of this kind of stuff will never get bored. Billy Golden recorded 
"Turkey in the Straw" over and over and over, and they're all good. Recently 
I found take 6, which has the most intense ragtime piano accompaniment. The 
others have piano acc also, but none compare with this take--of those I have 
heard... 
Hope thi helps a little... 
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote: 

> yes, interesting "Ain't dat a shame" 1901, and Bill Bailey, I believe was 
> 1901. So I am still looking for confirmation as to who did this 1901 version 
> on Columbia, and I suspect it is Bob Roberts, but I am not positive. 
> Wonderful turn of the Century ragtime classic with sort of an early blues 
> quality to it. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bud Black" <banjobud at cfl.rr.com> 
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> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:58:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's 
> 
> Silas Leachman recorded "Ain't Dat A Shame" in 1901, but (IIRC)it was on 
> the 
> Monarch label. Incidentally, this song was a precursor to "Bill Bailey." 
> This is one of those rare cases where the "answer" song became more famous 
> than the original. 
> 
> Bud 
> 
> -------Original Message------- 
> 
> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net 
> Date: 8/8/2009 1:39:32 PM 
> To: 78-L 
> Cc: Phonolist; Phono-L 
> Subject: [78-L] Who is the artist on these early Columbia's 
> 
> I just picked up a couple of really nice early silver & black 10" Columbia 
> Ragtime Comedy songs with piano and vocal. Here are the numbers and titles: 
> Ain't Dat a Shame" Baritone Solo No. 378 and "Every Morn I bring her 
> Chicken 
> " Baritone Solo No. 1448. "Ain't Dat a Shame" (a ragtime number sounding 
> alot like a take off on "Won't you come home Bill Bailey) could be Bob 
> Roberts, but I am not totally certain, while the "Chicken" song sounds a 
> good deal like Dan W. Quinn, but again I would like to be sure as to who 
> the 
> artist is. Thanks in advance for your help. According to Steve's dating 
> book 
> 378 would be 1901 and 1448 would be 1903. 
> 
> Bruce 
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