[78-L] Subject: Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory sites
Malcolm Smith
malcolms at redshift.com
Sun Aug 2 12:17:45 PDT 2009
Josephine Baker also made some films in France in which she's quite
wonderful. At one point, after the war she came back to New York and
was turned away at the door of the Stork Club in New York. Little
wonder she preferred France like numerous other black American
performers. (I can go back to the e-mail I sent about Lil Harden).
Malcolm Smith.
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> 11. Mike Seeger and NLCR (Steve Ramm)
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> From: Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>
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> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Julian Vein
> <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Michael Biel wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Martin (CNN commentator) and Rowan & Martin (nightclub and TV
>>> comedians)
>>>
>>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>> ---------------
>> The Rowan & Martin Laugh-In contains one of my favourite one-liners
>> uttered by Billy Graham: "They said this show hadn't a prayer."
>>
>> Julian Vein
>>
>
> Which reminds me: there's Billy Graham the minister, and there was
> Bill
> Graham, of Fillmore East/West fame....
>
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> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 03:01:48 -0400
> From: "RAY KILCOYNE" <kil at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] covers/cross-overs/doodoo-throwing (was: covers)
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> From: "Michael Biel"
> As Charles Bihun posted, these are also
>> "cross-overs" as would be Tony Bennett recording Hank Williams' Cold
>> Cold Heart (which Williams did NOT like!) and Whitney Houston
>> recording
>> Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You".
>>
> I think "cross-over" more specifically refers to a record that
> starts out as
> a hit in one genre that crosses over to become a hit in another.
> Examples:
> Red Foley's CHATTANOOGIE SHOE SHINE BOY crossed over from Country
> to become
> a #1 Pop hit. Bing Crosby recorded a cover, but Foley nevertheless
> had a
> cross-over hit.
> The Platters" ONLY YOU crossed over from R&B to become a big Pop
> hit despite
> the Hilltoppers cover.
> It can go the opposite way too, more rarely but there are many
> examples.
> STRAIGHTEN UP AND FLY RIGHT by the King Cole Trio started out as an
> R&B hit,
> but then crossed over to become a big Pop favorite and then crossed
> over to
> become a #1 Country hit.
> RayK
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:41:52 +0100
> From: Julian Vein <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
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> Royal Pemberton wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Julian Vein
>> <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Biel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roland Martin (CNN commentator) and Rowan & Martin (nightclub
>>>> and TV
>>>> comedians)
>>>>
>>>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>>> ---------------
>>> The Rowan & Martin Laugh-In contains one of my favourite one-liners
>>> uttered by Billy Graham: "They said this show hadn't a prayer."
>>>
>>> Julian Vein
>>>
>>
>> Which reminds me: there's Billy Graham the minister, and there
>> was Bill
>> Graham, of Fillmore East/West fame....
>> _______________________________________________
> Bill Graham, who played baritone sax with Dizzy Gillespie.
>
> Julian Vein
>
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> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:19:27 -0700
> From: Jeff Lichtman <jeff at swazoo.com>
> Subject: [78-L] New records in the jukebox
> To: 78-l at 78online.com
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> I have put a new set of records in my web jukebox. This month's theme
> is dance bands, and the performers are Snooks Friedman, Irving
> Aaronson, Fred Waring, Paul Specht, Ben Selvin, Nat Shilkret, Leo
> Reisman, Arthur Lange and Hal Kemp.
>
> As always, the URL to the jukebox is in my signature, below.
>
> - Jeff Lichtman
> jeff at swazoo.com
> Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web
> Jukebox at
> http://swazoo.com/
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:39:21 +1000
> From: Maria Fletcher <riafletcher at gmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
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> Dear all
>
> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
> recording
> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
> message pour
> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
> references
> or background much appreciated.
>
> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78 recording and
> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
> the right
> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>
> regards,
> Maria
> Canberra, Australia
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 11:55:06 +0200
> From: "Hans en Corrie Koert" <koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
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> Message-ID: <D0CBF42011D74332AA90E1B67FB67A4C at pchans>
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> Maybe you like my blog, titled
>
> http://keepswinging.blogspot.com/2008/11/josephine-baker-in-ghent-
> unexpected
> .html
> (copy)
> Hans
>
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> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] Namens Maria Fletcher
> Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 11:39
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> sites
>
> Dear all
>
> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
> recording
> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
> message pour
> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
> references
> or background much appreciated.
>
> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78 recording and
> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
> the right
> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>
> regards,
> Maria
> Canberra, Australia
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:10:03 +0200
> From: "Ate van Delden" <ate.vandelden at worldonline.nl>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
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> Ross Laird, who lives in Canberra is quite knowledgeable in this
> field.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maria Fletcher" <riafletcher at gmail.com>
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:39 AM
> Subject: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
>
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
>> recording
>> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
>> message
>> pour
>> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
>> references
>> or background much appreciated.
>>
>> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78 recording
>> and
>> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
>> the right
>> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>>
>> regards,
>> Maria
>> Canberra, Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> 78-L mailing list
>> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:11:06 +1000
> From: Maria Fletcher <riafletcher at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> <e8f3dd020908020511paafb8a5p6de33bb936f51f46 at mail.gmail.com>
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> Thank you Ate, I will try and make contact.
>
> 2009/8/2 Ate van Delden <ate.vandelden at worldonline.nl>
>
>> Ross Laird, who lives in Canberra is quite knowledgeable in this
>> field.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Maria Fletcher" <riafletcher at gmail.com>
>> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:39 AM
>> Subject: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
>> sites
>>
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
>>> recording
>>> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
>>> message
>>> pour
>>> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
>> references
>>> or background much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78
>>> recording and
>>> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in the
>> right
>>> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Maria
>>> Canberra, Australia
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:11:38 +1000
> From: Maria Fletcher <riafletcher at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> Thanks Hans, great site!
>
> 2009/8/2 Hans en Corrie Koert <koerthchkz at zeelandnet.nl>
>
>> Maybe you like my blog, titled
>>
>>
>> http://keepswinging.blogspot.com/2008/11/josephine-baker-in-ghent-
>> unexpected
>> .html<http://keepswinging.blogspot.com/2008/11/josephine-baker-in-
>> ghent-unexpected%0A.html>
>> (copy)
>> Hans
>>
>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] Namens Maria Fletcher
>> Verzonden: zondag 2 augustus 2009 11:39
>> Aan: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Onderwerp: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording
>> factory sites
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
>> recording
>> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
>> message pour
>> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
>> references
>> or background much appreciated.
>>
>> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78 recording
>> and
>> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
>> the right
>> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>>
>> regards,
>> Maria
>> Canberra, Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>> 78-L mailing list
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> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:14:48 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Alexandre Benoit <pathe90rpm at yahoo.fr>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
> To: 78-L at 78online.com
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> Record plants as listed in Billboard International Directory 1964?
> ?
> Australian Record Company
> Office: 11-19 Hargrave St.
> East Sidney
> Pressing Plant:
> 29 Blight St.,
> Sidney
> ?
> Peter Mann
> 3 Estella St.
> Melbourne SE 6
> ?
> W& G Record Processing Co.
> 185 A'Beckett St.
> Melbourne
> ?
> Following here are addresses of record companies. Some may have had
> their own
> preccing facility:
> ?
> Carinia Co.
> Daking House,
> Rawson Place
> Sidney
> ?
> EMI
> Emitron House
> 301 Castlereagh St.
> Sidney
> ?
> Festival
> 223-9 Harris St.
> Pyrmont
> Sydney
> ?
> Philips
> 69-79 Clarence St.
> Sydney
> ?
> Radio Corp.
> 161-173 Sturt St.
> So. Melbourne
> ?
> RCA
> 221 Elizabeth St.
> Sydney
> ?
> W & G
> 185 A'Beckett St.
> N. Melbourne
> ?
> Viking, Musical Industries Pty Ltd
> 416 George St.
> Sydney
> ?
> ?
> Alexandre
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:50:24 -0400
> From: Steve Ramm <steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Mike Seeger and NLCR
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> This is for Cary, Bill K and others who are interested:
>
>
>
> While we all pray for Mike Seeger and his health issues, I wanted
> to share that yesterday I receive a copy of a terrific new DVD
> documentary on Mike and his fellow New Lost City Ramblers which was
> just released by Chris Strachwitz via his Arhoolie Foundation. The
> DVD contains a 57 minute new documentary "Always Been A Rambler"
> with some great vintage footage and interviews. (I love the footage
> that John Cohen shot with Maybelle and Sara Carter. There's also 24
> minutes of rare NLCR performance.
>
> I wanted folks to know about it. Smithsonian Folkways has a new
> NLCR box set (my copy should be arriving this week) . You can see
> the trailer for the main film at:
>
> http://www.arhoolie.com/titles/204dvd.shtml
>
> Steve Ramm
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 07:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: 78records at cdbpdx.com
> Subject: [78-L] Added Blue Price Stickers on early Columbia Labels
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> Many of the early blue label Columbia records have a repricing
> label affixed to each side.? Most appear to be machine cut and
> applied while others seem to be cut out and applied by hand.? I
> recently found an older black label Columbia?with the blue
> repricing sticker on each side.?
> ?
> 1)? Exactly how were these repricing labels applied?
> ?
> ?
> 2)? Blue repricing stickers on black labels?? Looks kind of weird.
> ?
> Thanks!? CDB
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:30:16 -0400
> From: "simmonssomer" <simmonssomer at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
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> Message-ID: <AD9A47F769654010A040D0323C3DEDA9 at simmonssomerPC>
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> Josephine Baker began recording for French Columbia in July 1930.
> (Col DF
> 229..."Le petite Tonkinoise") She made approx. 44 or so additional
> sides up
> to January 1939.
> Post-WW II she resumed recording some of which were issued on a set
> of ten
> inch LP's issued by Columbia in England under the title "Cabaret
> Night In
> Paris"
> The pair of titles you mentioned were recorded in Paris in November
> 1937.
> Her heroic actions as part of the French Underground resistance
> movement are
> well documented.
> She, along with Adelaide Hall in England, did not scurry back to
> the states
> as war clouds gathered. (Gracie Fields skedaddled.)
> Baker did indeed have "Two Loves." (J'ai deux amours" Col DF-229)
>
> Al Simmons
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maria Fletcher" <riafletcher at gmail.com>
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:39 AM
> Subject: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
>
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
>> recording
>> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
>> message
>> pour
>> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
>> references
>> or background much appreciated.
>>
>> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78 recording
>> and
>> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
>> the right
>> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>>
>> regards,
>> Maria
>> Canberra, Australia
>> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:40:48 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
> sites
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <4A75A570.9060306 at sympatico.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I think the US Columbia LPs were reissued from the older Columbias.
> Post war
> she was recording for Pacific in Paris, whose sides were issued in
> England on
> Nixa who then licensed them to Mercury in the States..this flurry
> of reissue
> activity occurred when she did a US tour in 1951 (and was refused
> service at
> the Stork Club and smeared by Walter Winchell).
>
> Before Columbia, she recorded for French Odeon, 24 sides (1926-27),
> 20 of which
> came out on a Sony Art Deco CD (shouldn't Capitol-EMI sue for those?).
>
> dl
>
> simmonssomer wrote:
>> Josephine Baker began recording for French Columbia in July 1930.
>> (Col DF
>> 229..."Le petite Tonkinoise") She made approx. 44 or so additional
>> sides up
>> to January 1939.
>> Post-WW II she resumed recording some of which were issued on a
>> set of ten
>> inch LP's issued by Columbia in England under the title "Cabaret
>> Night In
>> Paris"
>> The pair of titles you mentioned were recorded in Paris in
>> November 1937.
>> Her heroic actions as part of the French Underground resistance
>> movement are
>> well documented.
>> She, along with Adelaide Hall in England, did not scurry back to
>> the states
>> as war clouds gathered. (Gracie Fields skedaddled.)
>> Baker did indeed have "Two Loves." (J'ai deux amours" Col DF-229)
>>
>> Al Simmons
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Maria Fletcher" <riafletcher at gmail.com>
>> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:39 AM
>> Subject: [78-L] Josephine Baker / Australian 78 recording factory
>> sites
>>
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> I would be interested in knowing the history of Josephine Baker's
>>> recording
>>> career for Columbia - I have just picked up a copy of 'J'ai un
>>> message
>>> pour
>>> toi/ Bonsoir my love - slow fox chante' DF 2275 Columbia - any
>>> references
>>> or background much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Also, I am trying to track the physical locations for 78
>>> recording and
>>> manufacturing companies in Australia - again, any gentle push in
>>> the right
>>> direction to start my research would be very welcome.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Maria
>>> Canberra, Australia
>
>
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