[78-L] label Info.

[David Lennick]

And Columbia added new run-out grooves over top of the old ones on brand new 
issues if they didn't think the groove ended close enough to the label. Look at 
all those late 30s (into 1940 I think) LA recordings.

The reverse stop-groove situation happens on German pressings of US Deccas in 
the 30s (maybe on Brunswicks as well) where they added a deep non-concentric 
"you vill stop" groove cutting through the original.

I've seen evidence that run-out grooves were not cut in the original masters. 
Some Brunswick pressings of Polydor masters have no run-out while the Polydors 
do, and I have two similar-era pressings of a Raymond Scott disc that appear to 
be from the same master but have different run-outs and no evidence of one 
being filled in.

dl

Charles Bihun wrote:
> Thanks for the heads up.
> 
> ChuckB
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> From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
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> From: Charles Bihun <csintala79 at yahoo.com>
>> I pretty much have the technical facts down. I was told how
>> to tell if a reissue of a record from the 20s was from a
>> master or dubbed (the masters won't cut lead in grooves,
>> while a dubbed record will have them).  ChuckB
> 
> Don't be so quick.  Unless you know that a specific reissue label does
> not add lead-in grooves, this is not a good indication.  Most reissues
> in the late 30s and 1940s I know that used original masters, added
> lead-in grooves and often cut their new lead-out groove style right over
> the original lead-outs, sometimes making a rather confusing mess!  While
> the lack of a lead-in is a dead give-away, I usually pay attention to
> the lead-out area.
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com 
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