[78-L] Condition of "lable"

[Tim Huskisson]

I have always understood grading symbols (E+ V+ E- etc) to indicate the
amount of wear to the playing surface from previous plays - regardless of
scratches, scuffs and other damage (including to label) which should be
noted separately.

Tim Huskisson

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
[mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Erwin Kluwer
Sent: 16 June 2009 21:35
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Subject: Re: [78-L] Condition of "lable"

Strictly speaking a grading (say E) should also include the label. But
you very rarely  see a record down  graded just because the label is in less
condition than it's surface...

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>wrote:

> I meant to add that one thing I don't care about is the condition of the
> label...a few eBay sellers will note that the "lable" on some record is
> especially "shinny" and I guess that's nice.  If I had a choice of two N-
> copies of the same thing and one had a clean label and the other was torn
> or
> had a big gloppy sticker,  I'd go for the clean one.   But I'm sure not
> going to spend my money just to upgrade the label if my copy is otherwise
> nice.
>
> I've tried playing the labels,  and you don't get much sound out of 'em.
>
> Taylor
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <soundthink at aol.com>
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Condition freak
>
>
> > I, too, make room for "placeholders." The information on the record
label
> > plus the performances are better than nothing, but I will keep on the
> > lookout for upgrades.
> >
> > Unfortunately, too large a?percentage of my collection falls under the
> > heading of "placeholder." Sometimes you takes Paramounts in whatever
> > condition you can gets them in.
> >
> > Cary Ginell
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
> > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:08 pm
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Condition freak
> >
> >
> >
> > I try to stick to E or maybe E-...but I make exceptions to my
"collecting
> > rules" all the time.   Here's one of many:   I'd like to upgrade my V+
> > copy
> > of the Sonny Kendis Orch. on Liberty Music Shop of   "Better Than
Average
> > Girl" but I'll hang on to what I've got until that happy day.
> >
> > Taylor
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Erwin Kluwer" <ekluwer at gmail.com>
> > To: <78-l at 78online.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:42 AM
> > Subject: [78-L] Condition freak
> >
> >
> >> Ok, I'll admit I am a freak when it comes to the condition of vintage
> >> records...
> >>
> >> I generally won't settle for a less then a E or E+ condition... Over
the
> >> years I have a lot of desired rarities passed by because there were in
> >> less
> >> condition (except for exceptional  rare items were virtually no better
> >> copies seem to exists...)
> >>
> >> Over the years I became more and more strict about this so I don't buy
> >> too
> >> many items because of my severance in this.. I almost don't  mind what
I
> >> pay for a record when it's close to perfect (I always seem to  manage
to
> >> suppress what I paid for a record, but Iam constantly bugged by it's
> >> defects
> >> (the worst (in order of horror): a crack, greying, needle runs (very
> >> visible
> >> on label brrrr), obvious scratch, lamination cracks, needle digs
> >> (small).........
> >>
> >> The worst torture for me is to purchase a rare overgraded record...
> >> It's becoming  a sick thing. I want even a Berliner to be  near mint,
or
> >> Blues Paramounts.... Well guess the trouble  finding that!!
> >>
> >> My guess is that a lot of collectors are a lot less picky about a
> >> record's condition....Or am I mistaken...??
> >>
> >> If any out there, please come out of the closet!!  I am hoping to have
> >> enough troubled reactions to start a selfhelp group.
> >>
> >> Erwin
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