[78-L] Composers who steal

Dnjchi at aol.com Dnjchi at aol.com
Mon Jun 8 08:53:17 PDT 2009


 
Wish I had the copyright to Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star.  Lots of  
composers stole that theme.  While on the same thought, imagine if the  Scriptures 
were still in copyright (orig, writers, not various versions)!   "Today's 
reading is from Matthew, with the perrmission of the copyright  owner."
dc
 
In a message dated 6/8/2009 11:34:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dlennick at sympatico.ca writes:

Hey..nobody ever sued Leonard Bernstein or John Williams, and they're  two 
of 
the biggest thieves in the business. Lenny was a genius (Williams  is NOT, 
he's 
just a talented cut-n-paster who should put a chunk of his  fortune in 
escrow 
for Holst, Elgar and Bernard Herrmann) but every time I  hear Dohnanyi's 
Serenade, I can point to half of the score for "On the  Town" which is a 
blatant 
ripoff of its themes.

Richard Rodgers  stole from himself all the time. Oh, sorry, "recycled". 
"Johnny 
One Note"  is really a tune that was dropped from Mississippi, something 
about  
Pancho. "No Other Love" was part of the "Victory at Sea" score from a year  
earlier ("Beneath the Southern Cross"), and "Blue Moon" went through 3  
sets of 
lyrics before settling on the final one.

dl

Taylor  Bowie wrote:
> There are plenty of them,  and almost all of them  have done so at one 
time 
> or another,  intentionally or  not.
> 
> While some of you were torturing yourself tonight with  the Tony Awards,  
I 
> was playing some olde rekkids and having a  fine time!  Here are two 
> interesting ones I played this  evening:
> 
> Pathe 036005 Max Terr Orch. "Chansonette"   Composer credit is Rudolf 
Friml, 
> and low and behold it turns out to  be the same melody as the main part 
of 
> The Donkey Serenade,   which I think was written for the film version of 
The 
> Firefly in 1935  or so.  No show credit is given on the label,  so I 
guess it  
> was just something Friml had kicking around when they needed an  
additional 
> song for the movie.
> 
> Bluebird 5088   Bert Lown Orch. "We'll Have A Honeymoon Some Day".  This 
was 
> the  last Bert Lown Bluebird I was missing and I was excitied to be able 
to  
> buy it recently.  A very loose performance,  with a great  piano solo by 
> Chauncey Grey and a full-chorus solo from Spencer Clark  on bass sax...I 
> don't recall Rollini ever getting a full chorus when  he was with the 
band.
> 
> The song itself is a dreadful redo of  Side By Side,  and I wasn't 
surprised 
> to see that the composer  credit was Harry Woods...talented but seemingly 
> undisciplined and  lazy as a writer.
> 
> I guess the lesson is if you want to steal  from a composer why not steal 
> from yourself...you won't get sued that  way.
> 
> 
> Taylor
> 
>  
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