[78-L] Revard violinist

Taylor Bowie bowiebks at isomedia.com
Thu Apr 30 12:27:30 PDT 2009


I still can't think of his name and Cary's book is in the other room...it's 
an odd name as I recall,  but he plays a very forceful and bluesy solo on 
the record I mentioned.

Taylor


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Jazz violin


> There seems to be a distinct lack of appreciation for Joe Venuti in this 
> thread.  I like all the others who have been mentioned (Louis Tierney is 
> great and too-little known),  but Joe takes first prize for me.  I wish 
> all of you could have heard him live on his last gig here in Seattle back 
> in 1978...I saw him on ten nights and I don't think he ever played better.
>
> Speaking of jazz violin,  there are a couple of YouTube videos of Joe 
> Livoti with guitarist Neil Levang (from the Lawrence Welk orch.) doing two 
> different versions of Wild Dog...great stuff.   Welk featured some 
> wonderful violinists over the years,  including Livoti,  Jimmy Getzoff and 
> the matchless Dick Kesner...not jazz players but just great players.
>
> And when watching some of the old Welk video cuts,  it's fun to spot Kurt 
> Deterlie in the string section,  some 30+ years after he played with Bix 
> and friends in the Whiteman band.
>
> When I was little,  my fave Welk player was violinist Bob Lido...not a 
> great jazz player,  but when called upon  he could tear off a pretty good 
> solo in a jam number.  There is a wonderful 1956 clip of Welk on YouTube 
> playing Rock Around The Clock where Bob does a little "four-string" solo, 
> ala Venuti.
>
> I forget who the fiddler is on the Jimmy Reverd Bluebirds but he's 
> amazing, too...Someone Else You Care For has been a fave record of mine 
> for more than 40 years.  I think that was the first western swing record I 
> ever bought...five cents at the VA Thrift Shop.
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <soundthink at aol.com>
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:35 AM
> Subject: [78-L] Jazz violin
>
>
>> Try Michel Warlop.He played some dates with Grappelli & Reinhardt, but 
>> there are some astoundingly terrific sides by this unheralded violinist.
>>
>> You should also listen to some of the western swing violinists, such as 
>> Carroll Hubbard, Cecil Brower, J.R. Chatwell, and Louis Tierney. All 
>> great, and there were many more.
>>
>> Cary Ginell
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: I. Cubillo <i.cubillo at telefonica.net>
>> To: 78-L <78-L at 78online.com>
>> Sent: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 1:03 pm
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Do, Do, Do
>>
>>
>>
>> Me...  the same... I first knew Grappelli. Great! Then I read about Stuff
>> mith, and I acquired a CD of Nat King Cole backed by a great combo, Smith
>> mong them... Great!
>> Then I read about Eddie South. I bought from Nauck the Victor of "La 
>> Rosita"
>> nd "Waters of Minnetonka", and I've been a bit dissapointed. Grappelli is
>> uch better to me.
>> There are others, of course. Venuti sounds good, but worse than Grappelli 
>> to
>> y ears.
>> And there are the myriad of more or less unknown violin players in 
>> american
>> nd british dance bands. Not unknown at all (we've got Rust and the like 
>> to
>> dentify many of them) but second row fiddlers. Some records by Whiteman,
>> ack Hylton and the like, feature great violin solos (double string 
>> playing
>> nd the like, stuff like the Stuff's one). Pity those solos last only a 
>> few
>> econds!
>> Inigo
>>
>> ñigo Cubillo
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> rom: <soundthink at aol.com>
>> o: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> ent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:01 AM
>> ubject: Re: [78-L] Do, Do, Do
>>
>> Carrie (Mrs. Jimmie) Rodgers does hav
>> e her charm, but she never fancied
>> erself a vocalist, not like Miss Audrey did. The ultimate stage wife. 
>> Lucy
>> icardo in Alabama, only not nearly as funny.
>>
>> I will defer to you Shep Fields fans out there, but I have yet to hear 
>> one
>> y him that I am remotely interested in.. I'm also frustrated at all the
>> imes when I would spot a buff Bluebird, I would hope that it would be a
>> reat blues record, a Tampa Red, or a western swing item I didn't have.
>> nvariably, it's old Shep.
>>
>> Stephane Grappelli was my first introduction to jazz violin, and although
>> love Stuff Smith, Eddie South, and Svend Asmussen, Stephane was the most
>> legant.
>>
>> Plus, I have a copy of his very interesting?autobiography, which he
>> utographed to me.
>>
>> Cary Ginell
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Hendrix 78L <gennett5276 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 8:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Do, Do, Do
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me put it this way.  I can listen to "We Miss Him When the Evening
>> Shadows Fall"... maybe every 15 years or so.  But put on a Hank and 
>> Audrey
>> duet, and I wince every time she comes near the microphone.*  Bear Family
>> was perverse enough to put out an LP of her entire commercially recorded
>> recorded solo work, and I was almost perverse enough to buy it, out of
>> hat
>> same masochistic streak that might draw one to Florence Foster Jenkins.
>> ut
>> I decided to pass, even though I think she was backed by the Drifting
>> Cowboys (a shotgun
>> wedding arranged by Hank, no doubt).  "Lovesick Blues,"
>> indeed!  --Mark Hendrix
>>
>> *for context, I should fess up that I actually enjoy some of Ed Kirkeby's
>> vocals, and derive pleasure from "the vocal stylings" both Tom Stacks and
>> l
>> Miller.  But Audrey Williams is not so bad that she's good.  She is 
>> simply
>> bad; not even worth checking out.
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:59 PM
>> > To: 78-L Mail List
>> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Do, Do, Do
>> >
>> >
>> > Any better/worse than Mrs. Jimmie Rodgers?
>> >
>> > dl
>> >
>> > Mark Hendrix 78L wrote:
>> > > Audrey Williams is Mrs. Hank Williams, to you.  Actually, she
>> > was the FIRST
>> > > Mrs. Hank Williams.  Not a good vocalist by any stretch of the
>> > > magination.  --Mark Hendrix
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
>> > >> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David
>> ennick
>> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:29 PM
>> > >> To: 78-L Mail List
>> > >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Do, Do, Do
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Agreed about Shep Fields' New Music, of which I've heard very few
>> > >> samples. Sid
>> > >> Caesar was in the band for a while and appears on the March 10/42
>> > >> session.
>> > >> Notice that by 1940 he was recording titles like Boy Scout in
>> > >> Switzerland,
>> > >> Who's Yehoodi, When the Mush=2
>> 0Begins to Rush Down Father's
>> > >> Vest..man, Bernie
>> > >> Privin and Jack Jenney are in the April
>>  1940 lineup!
>> > >>
>> > >> Sammy is okay for a couple of things, like "Daddy" and "I Used to
>> > >> Work in Chicago".
>> > >>
>> > >> Ken Griffin is okay for skeet shooting and I have no idea who
>> > >> Audrey Williams is.
>> > >>
>> > >> What do you want from me....I still can't stomach Stephane
>> > >> Grappelli and never
>> > >> will.
>> > >>
>> > >> dl
>> > >>
>> > >> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>> > >>> Now, now,  Cary...I can steer you to some excellent records by
>> > >> a couple of
>> > >>> your "verboten" artists.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If you don't want to ripple,  try some of the Shep Fields "New
>> usic"
>> > >>> records from ca. 1941.  My fave is the oddly titled and
>> > >> constructed "Ooh,
>> > >>> Does Your Mother Know That You Smoke."  Band sounds great,
>> xcellent
>> > >>> clarinet solo by Gus Bivona,  damn clever tune.  Good,
>> > hip-chick vocal,
>> > >>> too...can't recall her name.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> My two fave Sammy Kaye records are the Victors of "Daddy"  and
>> > >> "My Buddy."
>> > >>> Band sounds good on both of them.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Don't know Audrey Williams,  and I'll admit defeat with Ken 
>> > >>> Griffin.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Taylor B
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>> From: <soundthink at aol.com>
>> > >>> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:10 PM
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [78-L]
>> How well did they do it.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> I tend to listen to acoustic records more for their historic
>> > >> value than
>> > >>>> their musical value. I'm strictly in the electric era. There
>> > >> are certain
>> > >>>> sounds, however, that took some getting used to in order to
>> > appreciate
>> > >>>> them - for example: Sidney Bechet's rapid vibrato, the
>> > >> harmonies of the
>> > >>>> Carter Family, pre-war Cajun vocals, and bebop. Thirty years
>> > >> ago I couldn't
>> > >>>> relate to any of these musically; but after listening and
>> > >> listening, the
>> > >>>> layers peel away and now I enjoy all four of these kinds of music.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Ken Griffin, Audrey Williams, Sammy Kaye, and Shep Fields,
>> > >> however, offend
>> > >>>> at every level.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Good topic.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Cary Ginell___
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