[78-L] Musical Mobsters

[Steve Thornton]

I really think that if these are for kids the finer distinctions will miss
the point. The transition from silent to sound can easily be accomplished
with the actual movie. Or a screening of selected scenes from "Singin' In
The Rain". 

However, 78-L exists for the finer distinctions, and the even finer
distinctions between those, so keep talking; it's an education for
no-longer-kids like me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com 
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Ken 
> "Silver Showcase"
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:06 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Musical Mobsters
> 
> Michael Biel wrote:
> > Ken "Silver Showcase" wrote:
> >   
> >> Michael Biel wrote:, 
> >>   
> >>     
> >>>> The transition from Silent film to 'Talkies'
> >>>>     
> >>>>       
> >>>>         
> >>> If I Had A Talking Picture of You
> >>> Take Your Girlie To The Movies
> >>>   
> >>>     
> >>>       
> >> Not quite.  "Take Your Girlie to the Movies" was published 
> in 1919 so it 
> >> has nothing to do with the talkies.
> >>
> >> -- Ken, (bein' picky tonight.)
> >>     
> > You have to have a before if you want to have an after.  
> Transition from 
> > Silent (before) to Sound (after). 
> 
> I think that's stretching things.  The song says nothing at all about 
> talking pictures or any kind of transition to anything.  Its simply a 
> song about "the movies."  Or do you consider ANY song about 
> the movies 
> to be about the transition from the silent to the sound era?
> > (Of course I could also mention that there were talking 
> > movies long before The Jazz Singer and before 1919.)
> >   
> 
> Absolutely true.  But they weren't commercially viable or 
> they weren't 
> technically practical and so the "talkies" were not much of a 
> factor and 
> the "talkie era" had not yet arrived. 
> 
> The deForest sound on film system, (Phonofilm), was 
> introduced in 1922 
> but he was unable to interest any major filmmakers in using it until 
> after "The Jazz Singer" came on the scene.
> 
> BTW - one of these early deForest Phonofilm productions 
> presents Noble 
> Sissle and Eubie Blake.  It was released in April of 1923.  As the 
> picture starts Sissle says, "Well, here we is in the movies." 
>  To which 
> Blake responds, "This ain't no movie.  Its a talkie!"  I've 
> wondered if 
> Blake coined the term "talkies" as it relates to motion 
> pictures or if 
> it was in use before he said it in that film.  Anybody know?
> 
> -- Ken
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