[78-L] unstable records, was CV records

[joe@salerno.com]

Maybe they changed mic - being recorded so far apart they didn't realize 
the error, or didn't care...

joe salerno


Sammy Jones wrote:
> I hadn't considered that they changed studios, but the sound certainly does
> change from one side to the next.  Is there any indication in the Victor
> ledgers as to why the sides were recorded so far apart and if/why one was
> dubbed?
> 
> Sammy
> 
> 
> David Lennick wrote:
>> Actually it also sounds as if it changes studios. I suspect that one
>> side is
>> dubbed..the sides were also recorded four weeks apart.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> Sammy Jones wrote:
>>> Gallagher and Shean's recording of "Positively, Mr.
>> Gallagher?/Absolutely,
>>> Mr. Shean!" on Victor 18941 appears to change keys at the side
>> change.  I
>>> have no idea which is correct!
>>>
>>> Sammy
>>>
>>> David Lennick Wrote:
>>>
>>> There's a Paderewski electrical that is a major economy sized pain to
>> keep
>>> on
>>> pitch. Two-sided piece..as I recall, I had to do a pitch adjustment
>> of close
>>> to
>>> 5 percent in the first few seconds.
>>>
>>> There are also some two-part recordings where the pitch is entirely
>>> different
>>> between the two sides. One is Respighi's "Aria di Corte" on Victor
>>> (Barbirolli,
>>> New York Philharmonic). Another is Hovhaness' "Mihr" on Disc..that
>> one drove
>>> me
>>> crazy 30 years ago when I had no frame of reference or proper key-
>> checking
>>> equipment and couldn't tell which side was in the correct key, if
>> any.
>>> dl
>>>
>>> joe at salerno.com wrote:
>>>> Speed instability is not limited to minor labels or very early
>> records.
>>>> We could probably start a new thread of unstable 78s.
>>>>
>>>> Rachmaninoff's "One Lives but Once" (Strauss) 78 is horrible for
>> speed
>>>> stability IIRC. There's one early piano recording on Gramophone
>> (it's on
>>>> APR but I'm too lazy to go look it up) where the artist starts
>> playing
>>>> before the platter is rotating up to speed. These were careless
>> things,
>>>> or machine malfunctions. It's more surprising that they allowed such
>> a
>>>> thing to be released, but in a new industry, who cares? CV records
>> were
>>>> an attempt to bring new technology to the market. I don't know if
>> they
>>>> played longer, but the sound quality would be more consistent
>> through
>>>> out the record, and I assume, surface noise as well.
>>>>
>>>> joe salerno
>>>>
>>
> 
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