[78-L] unstable records, was CV records

Sammy Jones sjones69 at bellsouth.net
Sun Mar 22 20:42:05 PDT 2009


I hadn't considered that they changed studios, but the sound certainly does
change from one side to the next.  Is there any indication in the Victor
ledgers as to why the sides were recorded so far apart and if/why one was
dubbed?

Sammy


David Lennick wrote:
> Actually it also sounds as if it changes studios. I suspect that one
> side is
> dubbed..the sides were also recorded four weeks apart.
> 
> dl
> 
> Sammy Jones wrote:
> > Gallagher and Shean's recording of "Positively, Mr.
> Gallagher?/Absolutely,
> > Mr. Shean!" on Victor 18941 appears to change keys at the side
> change.  I
> > have no idea which is correct!
> >
> > Sammy
> >
> > David Lennick Wrote:
> >
> > There's a Paderewski electrical that is a major economy sized pain to
> keep
> > on
> > pitch. Two-sided piece..as I recall, I had to do a pitch adjustment
> of close
> > to
> > 5 percent in the first few seconds.
> >
> > There are also some two-part recordings where the pitch is entirely
> > different
> > between the two sides. One is Respighi's "Aria di Corte" on Victor
> > (Barbirolli,
> > New York Philharmonic). Another is Hovhaness' "Mihr" on Disc..that
> one drove
> > me
> > crazy 30 years ago when I had no frame of reference or proper key-
> checking
> > equipment and couldn't tell which side was in the correct key, if
> any.
> >
> > dl
> >
> > joe at salerno.com wrote:
> >> Speed instability is not limited to minor labels or very early
> records.
> >> We could probably start a new thread of unstable 78s.
> >>
> >> Rachmaninoff's "One Lives but Once" (Strauss) 78 is horrible for
> speed
> >> stability IIRC. There's one early piano recording on Gramophone
> (it's on
> >> APR but I'm too lazy to go look it up) where the artist starts
> playing
> >> before the platter is rotating up to speed. These were careless
> things,
> >> or machine malfunctions. It's more surprising that they allowed such
> a
> >> thing to be released, but in a new industry, who cares? CV records
> were
> >> an attempt to bring new technology to the market. I don't know if
> they
> >> played longer, but the sound quality would be more consistent
> through
> >> out the record, and I assume, surface noise as well.
> >>
> >> joe salerno
> >>
> 
> 




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