[78-L] So Tired

Royal Pemberton ampex354 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 15:07:30 PDT 2009


I'll have to see if it's on YouTube or someplace....

On 3/22/09, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:
> Royal,  the record is remarkable.  I was first tipped to it years ago by a
> fellow member of our 78 group who said before he played it for me: "You
> won't believe this when you hear it."  He was right.  I was delighted to
> find my own copy a few years later.  Not that it's so bad that it's
> good...it's just...so bad!  BTW said friend's wife is generally a big fan of
> vintage music but she will not allow him to play that record,  even for
> laughs,  while she is in the house!
>
> As far as who or what was tired...I would say it was a combination of band,
> studio,  engineer,  song, etc.  Oh...and as is so typical of the prestigious
> Broadway pressings,  it sounds like you're playing a round hunk of cement.
>
> Let me say again that the song is part of the problem...as I recall it's
> co-composed by Bert Lown and maybe some band members.  The Lown record is
> dreary,  as is the version I have on Romeo by Vic Irwin...but none of the
> other versions can match the Sig Heller for absolute multi-faceted
> bottom-of-the-barrel.
>
> Taylor B
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Royal Pemberton" <ampex354 at gmail.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] unstable records, was CV records
>
>
>> Re 'Tired':  I've never seen or heard that record, but I just looked
>> it up on Tyrone's site.  I saw that the matrix number is in the L
>> series that was used by Paramount toward its end, and very near the
>> highest number reached in the series.  Does this record sound like, as
>> it were, the engineer was tired, or was the recording equipment on its
>> last leg?
>>
>> On 3/22/09, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> This could happen at major labels as well. Duke Ellington's 1933 English
>>> Deccas
>>> have problems (pitch, flutter as I recall) and some of his Brunswicks
>>> from
>>> around that time weren't released till the late 40s, possibly because of
>>> speed
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> And I still can't figure what's going on with Spike Jones' "Yes We Have
>>> No
>>> Bananas". The Canadian issue changes pitch all over the place, and
>>> according
>>> to
>>> one source this is supposed to be the case with the commercial issue, but
>>> the
>>> DJ version is stable.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> Taylor Bowie wrote:
>>>> I have several sides on late Broadway (1931-32) where there was clearly
>>>> some
>>>> problem with keeping the recording turntable at a constant speed.  The
>>>> Sig
>>>>
>>>> Heller Orch. of "Tired" is a terrifying reminder of how an ordinary
>>>> record
>>>>
>>>> can become memorably bad due to screw-ups by the engineer.
>>>>
>>>> Taylor B
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sammy Jones" <sjones69 at bellsouth.net>
>>>> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] unstable records, was CV records
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gallagher and Shean's recording of "Positively, Mr.
>>>>> Gallagher?/Absolutely,
>>>>> Mr. Shean!" on Victor 18941 appears to change keys at the side change.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have no idea which is correct!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sammy
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